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111 N V4 Noob VS 111 P V4 Noob?

cypress

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Hi, just wanted to know what are the differences between the pam 111 N V4 Noob 1:1 I just ordered from chazingtime and the pam 111 P V4 Noob 1:1 from puretime? What does the N ans the P means?
 

EDSON

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Hi, just wanted to know what are the differences between the pam 111 N V4 Noob 1:1 I just ordered from chazingtime and the pam 111 P V4 Noob 1:1 from puretime? What does the N ans the P means?

N SERIES are the latest version
 

Fin

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Newbie question here: What does N correspond to for production year?

In my mind, since N comes before P in the alphabet then N would be an earlier release than P.

Just trying to get a grasp on some things.
 

mysterio

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Answering but not answering the question. :)

The PAM Guide has not been updated for the PAM111. The last entry is for reps released in 2012, which is the N series V3. There has been a V4 release already.

N corresponds to 2011
P corresponds to 2013

The N-series V4 was released Dec. 2015, with the P-series released a month after in January 2016. Improvements going from N to P aside from the millesimation update is the slightly better font on the text on the movement (P is more refined, like the gen). All the physical features are the same (in fact some of the pictures are the same)

N-series
http://puretime01.com/pam111-n-v4-n...calf-leather-strap-a6497-with-y-incabloc.html

P-series
http://puretime01.com/pam111-p-v4-n...black-rubber-strap-a6497-with-y-incabloc.html
 

EDSON

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Answering but not answering the question. :)

The PAM Guide has not been updated for the PAM111. The last entry is for reps released in 2012, which is the N series V3. There has been a V4 release already.

N corresponds to 2011
P corresponds to 2013

The N-series V4 was released Dec. 2015, with the P-series released a month after in January 2016. Improvements going from N to P aside from the millesimation update is the slightly better font on the text on the movement (P is more refined, like the gen). All the physical features are the same (in fact some of the pictures are the same)

N-series
http://puretime01.com/pam111-n-v4-n...calf-leather-strap-a6497-with-y-incabloc.html

P-series
http://puretime01.com/pam111-p-v4-n...black-rubber-strap-a6497-with-y-incabloc.html


I am sorry for my lack of knowledge @mysterio . I always thought that Pam guide was updated for every new launch. Thank you for clarifiying it.


Regarding to the V4, isn't this V4 a fake V4? I've read that there is not oficial the V4 version. It is oficcial already? Thanks in advance.
 

mysterio

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I am sorry for my lack of knowledge @mysterio . I always thought that Pam guide was updated for every new launch. Thank you for clarifiying it.


Regarding to the V4, isn't this V4 a fake V4? I've read that there is not oficial the V4 version. It is oficcial already? Thanks in advance.

Well considering you're still wet at the ears, I can't say I blame you. The guide should be updated every once in a while, but [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION] has a life too, and new and updated reps don't regularly appear. As for the V4, calling a replica version a fake version is pretty funny. :D The problem with the V4 is consistency (or lack of). The problem lies with the factory allegedly mixing old parts with the V4 ones, resulting in the V4 being scarred with that reputation. V4 is real, but there are bastardized ones. Just make sure you check the QCs (you can post it in the PAM111 thread (QC pictures allowed) IF you see something wrong with it). :)
 

EDSON

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Well considering you're still wet at the ears, I can't say I blame you. The guide should be updated every once in a while, but @ALE7575 has a life too, and new and updated reps don't regularly appear. As for the V4, calling a replica version a fake version is pretty funny. :D The problem with the V4 is consistency (or lack of). The problem lies with the factory allegedly mixing old parts with the V4 ones, resulting in the V4 being scarred with that reputation. V4 is real, but there are bastardized ones. Just make sure you check the QCs (you can post it in the PAM111 thread (QC pictures allowed) IF you see something wrong with it). :)

I got clearer now the concept of the PAM guide. In the other hand, I know that is kind of complicated callig "fake" a replica, but you know that i was talking about those "bastardize ones":laugh:...... Thank you for your kind repply