005H Gen Dial

[panman8888]

here are nice shots to note the font, size of subsecond dial markers, size and placement of logo, and other features:

 

[PannyLover1]

Thanks for sharing, good for comparison now that Davidsen is updating his dials!

 

[VirginiaWatchFan]

This has been a very hot topic of late. Didn't I read on this board that the fonts of the 005 dial have not been consistent throughout all model years? I'm referring here to the genuine Panerai 005.

I think someone said that because of the disparity between the dial fonts that it was impossible to hold up just one example as representing fonts and other dial details.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

 

[crumpdaddy]

Does anyone know where we can get some bezel protectors from, like the one pictured?

 

[thehorse]

yeah, I'm looking for one too.

Its available on ebay, but at more than $10, it seems pricy for a piece of plastic...

 

[zetterdawg]

yeah, I'm looking for one too.

Its available on ebay, but at more than $10, it seems pricy for a piece of plastic...

DERRR it DOES say PANERAI on it!

 

[thehorse]

I don't mind paying a lot less and have Panerai Officne on it (note spelling error).

 

[ragerover]

This has been a very hot topic of late. Didn't I read on this board that the fonts of the 005 dial have not been consistent throughout all model years? I'm referring here to the genuine Panerai 005.

I think someone said that because of the disparity between the dial fonts that it was impossible to hold up just one example as representing fonts and other dial details.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

I'll try to clear some confusion up (or maybe just add to the confusion? LOL)

Yes, I can confirm that there several dial versions for the gen PAM0005. It is confirmed that there are atleast 2 dial variants for the PAM0005.

From what I have read, the dial variations have to do with the logo and the indicies/numerals NOT the font.

I believe the font has stayed consistant.

The early PAM0005 supposidly used dials left over from the PAM195 project. So low serial numbered 005s have the same dial as the PAM 195.

The logo on the early PAM0005 & PAM195 had longer arrows. The arrow on the "O" and the arrow on the "P" extended further.

The indices are supposidly different too. The indicies are supposidly a bit fatter and shorter on certain dials. But I believe its just the "3" thats different. Its a little shorter on top on the newer dials. Its hard for me to tell if the numerals/indicies are thicker/fatter.

If you are not confused yet, the early 5s and 195s said "L swiss L" at the bottom of the dial and the newer dials now say "L swiss made L."

If you want to buy or build "the ultimate" PAM0005, my opinion would be to model it off of a PAM195 to avoid any confusion.

A bit more info on the PAM0005, its the entry line model, lower in price than a 111. The PAM0005 has a solid back (not crystal like the 111) and the movement is just a basic ETA/Unitas 6497, no special bridges or finish. Dial is sold, not sandwich. PAM005 may also not be COSC while 111, but not sure on that fact.

Pics of Gen Pam005:
1st generation, using PAM195 dial:


2nd generation dial. Note different logo shape & "L swiss made L":


Gen Case back:




and here is a pic of a gen PAM195

 

[VirginiaWatchFan]

Thanks for your post. I think you sorted my confusion.

 

[sexybeast]

as i just posted, there is a huge differnce between my rep 005 and the gen005 it was just compared too at the APD.

 

[Road-Warrior]

Confused :shock:

So if a Rep 005 has a sandwich Dial, it is NOT accurate?
:?:

 

[Panerino]

I am excited about Davidsen's new 195.....can't wait to the updates and upgrades

 

[rogerwine]

Looking at my Davidsen 005 and the posts, it is patterned after the early 005 and still looks very very close to the gen to me. Even the color of the lumed numbers vary from cream to green depending on the light, but there is a very deep amount of ar on the crystal that cam add to the green tint. I've really agonized about the dial over the last couple of days, but I have to say that I feel fairly comfortable with my 005 now. My confidence is back!!!
rogerwine

 

[ragerover]

Confused :shock:

So if a Rep 005 has a sandwich Dial, it is NOT accurate?
:?:

PAM005 DOES NOT have a sandwich dial. Nor does the PAM195. Dial is a standard printed dial.

The PAM005 is basically the same exact watch as the PAM195 except the case is polished stainless instead of PVD.

So to answer your question, if a rep has a sandwich dial it is NOT accurate.

I forgot to add this image yesterday showing the change in the logo:

 

[Panama]

Does anyone know where we can get some bezel protectors from, like the one pictured?

I think Precious has them: ~5 Pounds Sterling

I`m shure a Britain dealer has them...

 

[efnstefn]

While I love my Davidsen 195, I've always been a bit nit picky about the letter font and placement of the OP symbol. I would love to see a more accurate dial!! I'd replace it immediately if Davidsen would just sell the dial to existing customers....or anyone for that matter.

 

[Road-Warrior]

PAM005 DOES NOT have a sandwich dial. Nor does the PAM195. Dial is a standard printed dial. So to answer your question, if a rep has a sandwich dial it is NOT accurate.

Thanks for the heads-up, I have already ordered a PAM195 from Joshua.
On his description it does not say Sandwich Dial.
I'll chek it when it arrives, hope it comes OK!

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