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Does anything stand out as being really wrong on this watch?

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VagueByDesign

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I went to a watch shop the other day to see what size watch I could get away with. 42mm doesn't look terrible on me and is probably the largest watch I can really wear without the lugs hanging over the sides of my wrist. So I started looking for decent looking replica Breitlings and decided to check out idolreplicas. I've got a Patek Phillipe replica I bought from them that has been a great watch, so I figured I'd give them another shot.

I'm not all that knowledgeable about Breitlings. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't care if it was a Seiko if it looked like these do. I just really like the look of them. My need right now is a watch that has a brown leather band on it. This is a working chronograph as well, so that just makes it more desirable for me. I like the look of this watch, but I'm just curious if it would stand out as an obvious fake because of the face color or anything. They have one that looks just like it with a black band and blue face that I am thinking of getting as well, but the brown band one would be first. What are your thoughts? My concern is that all the white faced Breitlings I've seen have gold subdials. I didn't know if having silver subdials would be a dead giveaway that it was a rep. Chronomat Evos aren't spendy enough for people to automatically assume it is a rep, but I don't want major tells shouting it to the world.

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Here is the blue faced one as well. I would buy them both at the same time, but I wanted to check the quality first before going all in. It isn't a spendy replica at all at $93 shipped, so even if it sucks it isn't like I'm out all that much. I just don't want it to stand out as an obvious fake. Basically if someone tells me "That is so obviously a fake that you would be able to tell from a hundred miles" then I'll get the blue one right now. I've compared it to a real one and it is a very close match. Compare that blue one to this one and there aren't many differences other than the word 'automatic' missing on the rep.

Anyway, thanks for the help and any opinions.
 
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I'm far from an expert, but look at the numbering on the minute subdial. It goes to 60 rather than 30 like all the other reps and gens I've seen. None of the subdials look correct to me. I'm guessing the bottom subdial is the second hand because it is not right on the 60.

Here's a picture I took this morning.
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VagueByDesign

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Good point. What do those subdials measure, anyway? I haven't been able to figure them out. I don't have any watches with dials like that, so I don't have anything to compare it to. I was thinking the one that goes to 12 is for the month and one of them is for the seconds and the other is to track the minutes on the chronograph. Is that right?
 
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There are issues with the dial (it's missing "Automatic" and the markers are wrong). The dial just doesn't look good. The pearl is far from subtle. Is it said to have AR? Here's Hont's:

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I can see that these are pretty off. Any recommendations for a decent rep Chronomat Evolution with a blue face and a leather strap for less than $200?
 
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Not that I know of, if you would be willing to spend another 75.00 bucks I think you'd be in business.




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seank said:
Not that I know of, if you would be willing to spend another 75.00 bucks I think you'd be in business.


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+1. The dealers pretty much know what the market rate is and charge accordingly. Unless it's a quartz build, in which case it's simply not the same watch as the A7750 build, IMHO.
 
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seank said:
Not that I know of, if you would be willing to spend another 75.00 bucks I think you'd be in business.




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Yeah, that is what I figured. I've got about $200 right now to spend on a watch, but since I don't want to get something I'm not going to be happy with, perhaps I'll explore expanding my budget and see what I can find. idolreplicas actually has a great looking one for around $300 that looks very close to the ones you guys posted.

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That one has a graphite face instead of a blue one, but if I can find one in blue that is as accurate to the original as that one (including the saphire crystal that this one has) then I think I'll be in business.
 
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Idolreplica = scammer. Hope you didn't get it from them. Your pictures show a faux chrono/el cheapo quartz version.

The good version comes with Asian 7750 high beat, automatic movement with working chronograph. Again, please avoid idolreplica... it's a well known scammer site.

There are tons of better versions available elsewhere. You can refer to our dealer's section for purchase. I got mine from hont :
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Of course it is an el cheapo version. It is $93 bucks shipped. lol

I figured the Automatic was missing because it was the quartz version too. I also figure that being a quartz would probably make it stand out as a fake. If it didn't have the breitling marks on it trying to pass as gen then it would actually still be a great looking watch. It would look like someone trying to copy a Breitling instead of a copy Breitling. Oh well... I'll throw a few more bucks in my budget and see about getting the one from hont. They already responded with a price so now they are calculating shipping.

That surprises me about idolreplica being a scammer. For one, I don't see them on your scammer list in the forums here. Secondly I've had good transactions with them in the past. But, like it says in your scammer list, even a scammer sends out a watch once in awhile.
 
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The quartz movement (1 tick per second) will give it away to even the casual observer, but often a quartz rep will have a "working" chronograph. That is, the subdials will start/stop when you click the upper chrono button and "reset" when you click the lower chrono button. As others have mentioned, the lack of "Automatic" on the dial as well as the faux chrono subdials (for example, the subdial at 12 reading "60" instead of "30") are also negatives.

The same watch with a 21j movement will give you a smooth sweep and you'll get "Automatic" printed on the dial. Looks like the pricing is the same, too. However, you still have a faux chrono that shows day/date/miltary time which I personally think detracts horribly.

In either case, it's also important to consider what the chrono second hand does. That's the big hand that you'd normally think of as being the second hand on a typical quartz watch. In the 21j model, the chrono second hand is always going to be in motion which makes it look like you've got the chrono running all the time. Most people don't run their chrono all the time so I'd view this as another flaw. In the quartz model, I think that the chrono second hand only runs when you activate the chrono so it's not running nonstop like the 21j. I see this as a good thing.

Oh, and by the way, the quartz will keep better time.

I was faced with your same dilemma when I purchased my first rep. I wanted an automatic movement but wanted to pay 21j prices. The folks here talked me into the A7750 hi-beat and it was worth every penny. Not to mention, the fit and finish on the A7750 version is going to be better than on a 21j version. For example, with the A7750 version you'll get sapphire crystal with better AR instead of mineral crystal with mediocre (if any) AR.

I'd recommend Hont as well. He's a good dealer.
 
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@ocdetails: Since your name suggests that you're very "obsessive" with details, follow most of the advice and get an A7750 version BCE, forget about the quartz BCE.

Add few more $$ to your budget to get the super duper ultimate rep BCE with A7750 movt, double AR glass (ok, the super duper part is an exaggeration) and you won't regret it. :cute:
 
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I will have a Graphite BCE for sale in the sales section tomorrow. If I had it with me and could tag the pictures I would have it up today.

Madcatlancelot is right, the A7750 is the only way to go.
 
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