difference quality in replica movements?

[Amsterdam]

/ edit about 2,5 years later:

I just logged in again on RWI (last visit was in 2009)... I'm quite active in the replica world meanwhile. This whole story was 100% bullshit.. that local dealer told me al this bullshit to scam me. But I was new to replica watches and believed everything he said. Of course an A7750 does not contain Swiss parts and the Swiss 7750's are not made in Asia after which they are being polished in Switzerland. All bullshit.

I never ever again buy from these retarded local dealers which order all watches from the known TDs and re-sell them with a big profit to the "noobs".

Meanwhile I have bought several replica watches from Andrew trusty time Great dealer.


BULLSHIT:

Hello,

My name is Glenn from Holland and I have a question about replica movements.
First, sorry for my bad english. I hope you'll understand.

I am interested for a while time in the new TAG Heuer Carrera Day Date Calibre 16. I want to buy this watch from a guy on a Dutch website like ebay. He gives me two choices: common quality Asian Valjoux (€300) or "Swiss quality" Asian Valjoux (€370).

He told me the ORIGINAL Valjoux movements are made in Asia either but are assembled and polished in Switzerland so Valjoux is allowed to say "Swiss Made" on their movements.

The difference between those movements is €70.. but according to him the "Swiss quality" Asian Valjoux is the best. It's based on many original parts. So the quality is better and it's easier to replace the parts for watchmakers because there are many original parts on the movement what is easier to replace and get.
That's why the "Swiss quality" Asian's are better then the common Asian Valjoux movements.


But the "Swiss quality" Asian's goes NOT, goes NOT to Switzerland to get polished and assembled. But stays in Asia and is ONLY getting assembled in Asia and not polished (too much work). So the "Swiss quality" movements are never been in Switzerland but is from many original parts made in Asia for ETA.

So, at the end of the story you'll have 3 types:

1. Fully original movement. based on 100% original parts (is sporadic used for replica's) Of course the best quality…
2. "Swiss quality" Asian Valjoux. Based on many original parts and some Asian parts but is not polished and assembled in Switzerland.
3. Asian Valjoux. The most common movement. 100% asian parts, less quality then "Swiss quality (no.2)"

Now my question is: is this story true, a bit true (please correct me) or totally bullshit? (please explain)

Thank you very much!

Glenn.

 

[hooligan]

I think this story is complete bullshit. Not the fact that ETA has factories in Asia, that's a known fact. I think there is likely ZERO difference between the 300 Euro version and the 370 Euro version... Or perhaps the 300 Euro version has the low-beat A7750 and the "Swiss Quality" watch has the high-beat A7750?

Don't buy into the "Swiss Quality" bit, but there may still be quality differences between the two movements.

I would suggest trying to source the watch through one of our trusted dealers here, and see what price you can get.

 

[Amsterdam]

Oke. I thought so either.. But when I buy a replica watch with Asia Valjoux 7750 on websites like tt88time.com (trusty times) are there possibilities that you get difference of quality? He said there are more factory's who made the Asia Valjoux movemens and some times there are better movements then the other times. So, it's just a change of luck.
Or do you always get the same quality movement at sites like tt88times?

What do you ppl think about that?

btw: I don't know any dealers here.. And I think it's better to deal only with ppl from Holland. (for problems in the future)

 

[hooligan]

Well, all of our trusted dealers will stand behind their watches in the case of problems, but if you feel more comfortable buying from someone in Holland, so be it.

There *may* be different levels of quality, but the biggest determinate of that is the low-beat v. high-beat.

Good luck.

 

[coop]

Well, all of our trusted dealers will stand behind their watches in the case of problems, but if you feel more comfortable buying from someone in Holland, so be it.

There *may* be different levels of quality, but the biggest determinate of that is the low-beat v. high-beat.

Good luck.

The quality will vary with every dealer as most of them drop ship and never see the watch watch you will get. Even the ones that dont drop ship will see variances in quality. Remember, these watches arent built in a real factory, but more like an assembly line on a kitchen table.

 

[Amsterdam]

Well, all of our trusted dealers will stand behind their watches in the case of problems, but if you feel more comfortable buying from someone in Holland, so be it.

There *may* be different levels of quality, but the biggest determinate of that is the low-beat v. high-beat.

Good luck.

Oke. Thanks. High beat vs Low beat. you mean like 28800vph ?
An other dealer here in Holland haves a special tool to bring this to the best value. I don't know how you name it in english. see:

Do you think after using that tool it makes a big difference in quality?

 

[coop]

Using the tool will tell you the bph, but the quality could still be shakey.

 

[cybee]

but according to him the "Swiss quality" Asian Valjoux is the best.

Swiss quality asian valjoux, hehe that's a good one. Make it easy on yourself and just find the watch you want then order it from one of the board dealers.

 

[guru]

This is really bullshit. No A7750 are made in Swiss or have real Valjoux parts.
The truth is, the A7750 are realy cood copies of the Valjoux and they take gen parts if you need to repair them.
The A7750 come from China and they come in different grades like the gen does. For example, when the first 1000 USD HBB came out, they used the A grade of this movement. As of my knowledge, 2 factories in China are manufacturing this movement.

I have heard from some very trusted people that the A7750 is a very good and reliable movement but it should get serviced when you get it. Then you should not have any problems for the next 7 years.
You can feel a serviced movement when you wind it up, it feels like gen.

All of my A7750 have seen a service and I do not have any problems.

So do not believe any stories of A7750 mfg in Swiss or usinggen parts.