Replica Watch Info's Must Have Reps...PERIOD

[sierracharlie]

Hi all,

This is my 1st post after stumbling on this excellent forum (while purchasing a gen Breitling). I must say I am very impressed with the community on reps. Lots of passion and enthusiasm put into it no doubt. So as a complete noob on reps, I would like to start a money-no-object-super-rep-must-have-collection thread.

Basically its just a page where all the rep experts can help noobs to filter out the possible must-have reps. Thanks all.

 

[aceofdiamonds]

I'm a newb here myself, and no doubt that info would be helpful, but I don't think you'll get it. Not quite sure why, but those in the know seem reluctant to say 'buy this watch' or 'buy that watch'. You need to do your own research.

By-Tor has some great guides to buying the best Tags, Omegas and Breitlings. Check his profile for the links....
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=43

For my part, it seems the best Daytona reps are made by SpinMaster. I've put my money where my mouth is and ordered one, so will be doing my first review soon.

Happy hunting!

 

[fakemaster]

There already are threads about this.

 

[aceofdiamonds]

What I think would be more helpful is a guide describing all the acronyms and codes that are banded about. For example, it took me a while to work out that 'PAM' was Panerai.

Maybe that guide exists but I haven't seen it.

 

[fakemaster]

Forum Terms & Abbreviations

 

[andygt]

Have a look in Fakey's Corner - the acronym and watch term guide is there.

 

[rarebear]

The Top Thread has some info I think your looking for.....
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47309

 

[aceofdiamonds]

Forum Terms & Abbreviations

Thanks Fakemaster! I missed that :roll:

To the OP, this is also very useful and explains a lot.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=57753

 

[rooster133]

You should define "must-have rep". Because it can be a very subjective term. Something that is a must-have to me, might not be to you, as it depends on tastes and personal preferences. If you are interested in other people's preferences, perhaps you should ask us to name the favourite rep that we own, or something like that (there are a few threads on the topic but I haven't seen one in a while). If, on the other hand, what you're interested in is a list of the "best" reps in terms of accuracy to the gen, then thare are also numerous threads on the topic already, including some recent ones. Try searching for "super reps" and similar terms.

 

[aceofdiamonds]

I'll ask another question here that I'm struggling to find a definitive answer to.

Among other things, I'm looking for a PAM 111h. There are various threads discussing the merits of those available from the various recommended dealers on RWI.
From reading some of the 'Help for newb' threads I get the impression that the Chinese factories specialise in certain watches, so whichever dealer I buy my PAM111h through it will probably have been made in the same factory.

Here's a quote from Fakemasters 'Some Tips On Buying Your First Replica: A Noob Guide'.
Q. Are dealer X's watches as good as the ones sold by dealer Y?
A. With the exception of one or two models, all the reps carried by our dealers are EXACTLY the same.
(The capitalisation of EXACTLY is from Fakemaster)

This suggests to me that all PAM 111h's are made in the same place and perhaps Daytona's made in another and HBB's in another, and so on......

So, what is the real difference between for example, Davidsen's 111h and Hero's 111h aside from service offered, QC, price, postage etc. etc?

 

[BlueRod37]

So, what is the real difference between for example, Davidsen's 111h and Hero's 111h aside from service offered, QC, price, postage etc. etc?

i'm no PAM expert, but the glasses can be different, the movement as well (engraving details on the swan mvmt)
the regulator as well can be working or not. the stuff on the right side (to manual wind it) can be more or less looking like the gen.

and of course, QC, have a picture before shipping, payment methods, .....

to find the best ones, you have to look to the wonderful reviews made by members

 

[aceofdiamonds]

So, what is the real difference between for example, Davidsen's 111h and Hero's 111h aside from service offered, QC, price, postage etc. etc?

i'm no PAM expert, but the glasses can be different, the movement as well (engraving details on the swan mvmt)
the regulator as well can be working or not. the stuff on the right side (to manual wind it) can be more or less looking like the gen.

and of course, QC, have a picture before shipping, payment methods, .....

to find the best ones, you have to look to the wonderful reviews made by members

Thanks for the reply. From what you're saying then, more than one factory will make the same style of watch, hence the variations?

Also, I don't want to criticise Fakemaster or anyone else, but his comment about
'All the reps carried by our dealers being EXACTLY the same', is wrong, is it not?

Please don't be offended FM! I'm just trying to learn

 

[CaptainJack]

Not quite sure why, but those in the know seem reluctant to say 'buy this watch' or 'buy that watch'.

I don't understand why you would want someone to tell you what watch to buy... ??? Buy what you think looks good.

 

[hooligan]

Davidsen is one of the rare exception that seems to source his parts from a different source. He also offers reps of many models of Panerai that NO ONE else offers. So - many, if not all, of his parts might be different from "normal" reps. He is the exception to the rule, though.

What Fakes said is very true, most reps have only 1 or 2 factories making them. So, with the exception of very few models, any dealer can source any model you're after.

 

[fakemaster]

Why would I be offended? If you read the entire sentence in context it reads:

With the exception of one or two models. all the reps carried by our dealers are EXACTLY the same.

 

[aceofdiamonds]

Not quite sure why, but those in the know seem reluctant to say 'buy this watch' or 'buy that watch'.

I don't understand why you would want someone to tell you what watch to buy... ??? Buy what you think looks good.

I've not been here long, but it seems very few people need to be told what to buy. They seem to want to know which is the most accurate rep of their chosen brand/model. That info seems hard to come by.

If the answer is 'With a few exceptions, they are all the same watch so just pick your preffered dealer' then almost all the 'Who has the best sub' posts would stop.

I guess us newbs need to be told what those one or two exceptions are.

 

[Meta4]

If the answer is 'With a few exceptions, they are all the same watch so just pick your preferred dealer' then almost all the 'Who has the best sub' posts would stop.

Perhaps they would stop if the newbies that post them read more before they posted. Then they might understand how pointless the question is.

What part of Fakemaster's advice is so hard to understand?

 

[hooligan]

The reluctance to say "buy this watch" or "buy that watch" comes from the fact that flaws that are acceptable to me, may be unacceptable to you. Or a watch with a perfectly made case may be my #1 concern, whereas your #1 concern may be the most accurate dial.

I'll give you an example - the Ferrari model Panerai watches are some of the absolutely most dead-on replicas of any make/model out there. However, I hate the designs so I would never buy one, regardless of how accurate or well made they are. So, if you were of the same opinion, it would be a waste of time to advise you to buy one of those reps. Right?

So. more information from your side is needed for us to be really helpful.

 

[aceofdiamonds]

Personally, I don't need any advice on what to buy and I enjoy doing my own research.

My question/comment surrounds the manufacture of the watches.
If a certain brand/model are all made by the same factory then the question 'Who has the best Sub' or whatever, is redundant because all the dealers are selling the very same watch made by the very same factory.

We know there are some models manufactured by more than one factory and it would be nice to know which models these are so we can stop wasting our time trying to compare identical watches.

 

[Meta4]

Stop wasting your time.
FM said "With the exception of one or two models, all the reps carried by our dealers are EXACTLY the same."

That's 1 or 2 out of hundreds.
For all intents and purposes - they are all the same.
Watch X from dealer A = Watch X from dealer B or from dealer C.
Got it yet?
They are all the same.