Are these guys legit? Not on the scammer list

[mbjoer]

Why is it so hard to stick to our approved dealers?

+1

Because the existing dealers are neither the only ones out there nor perfect.
We need members to look around and hopefully from time to time test others, so we can find and get more trusted dealers here.

If all we get when someone enquires about an unknown is "don't even think about it" we will slowly wither away as the existing dealers drop off the list over time.

I am not suggesting that this one is any good. All I say is, do not be so negative when someone looks outside the comfort zone. It just might help you one day.

 

[fakemaster]

I really have come to accept that I'm ignored quite a bit. :?

I have tried more dealers and gotten more crap than anyone. I've taken so many for the team I permanently have to sit on an inflatable ring. How do you think the scammer list came to be? There are over 200 sites listed there that took years to compile. And it will continue to grow. But could you imagine if I started a thread everytime I considered pulling the trigger? I've got 10 right now that I'm looking at.

I know that 'use the trusted dealers' is repeated ad nauseum. Yes it is the result of people who think they're smarter than everyone else or being to lazy to do their own research. Regardless when the same thing is repeated over and over people become desensitized.

All I know is when I say why risk it I have a reason.

 

[CaptainJack]

I really have come to accept that I'm ignored quite a bit. :?
All I know is when I say why risk it I have a reason.

Did anybody else hear something? No? Meh...

 

[mbjoer]

I really have come to accept that I'm ignored quite a bit. :?

I have tried more dealers and gotten more crap than anyone. I've taken so many for the team I permanently have to sit on an inflatable ring. How do you think the scammer list came to be? There are over 200 sites listed there that took years to compile. And it will continue to grow. But could you imagine if I started a thread everytime I considered pulling the trigger? I've got 10 right now that I'm looking at.

I know that 'use the trusted dealers' is repeated ad nauseum. Yes it is the result of people who think they're smarter than everyone else or being to lazy to do their own research. Regardless when the same thing is repeated over and over people become desensitized.

All I know is when I say why risk it I have a reason.

Your list is just fantastic, and I cannot believe the amount of time and money that has gone into it. Perhaps it is not as much ignored as overlooked amongst the overwhelming mass of information to be absorbed when starting out here.
Still I think you would agree that the experiences made by others could be useful, especially when it comes to dealers which potentially are a good supplement to the existing list.
And I hate to think what would happen if you stopped your work. Who and how would the list be updated?

 

[replica80]

Still I think you would agree that the experiences made by others could be useful, especially when it comes to dealers which potentially are a good supplement to the existing list.
And I hate to think what would happen if you stopped your work. Who and how would the list be updated?

There is nothing wrong with wanting to try out different sites and new dealers imo, however I think there is a very good reason why the scammer list is veeery long and the trusted dealers are few and good. I also think it's easy to confuse good advice and long experience with arrogance when one has found the 'holy grail watch' on some other site and want it BAD!

It's a bit like when you really really want a girl, even though all your friends tell you she it a bitch...a little part wants to find out anyway - they might be wrong

So yes, the might be many good dealers out there (and probably are), and one might get lucky and perhaps they actually have what they say they have and send it to you... This is the risk we have to take if we go outside the safety of this forum, and I understand that some are willing to take it.

For me, I will play it safe and stick to the trusted dealers for now. And I do that because I know this people at this forum actually gives a shit about the members.

Just my 2 cents...

 

[fakemaster]

You know what it all comes down to? Price. It's always like 'Oooh I just saw the such and such at lubaeandrapemedotcom for $20 less'. And he first thing that always comes to my mind is were talking about a copy of the gen for 10% of the cost. And this guy is flipping out over $20? The only thing I can say is if that small difference will break you then you shouldn't be buying the watch to begin with.

And jeez. It's already stressful enough. Why pile the 'am I going to even get it' worry on top of it?

[think1m7igff]Hey! You can't be all spoutin logic like that![/think1m7igff]

 

[trailboss99]

Dealers come and dealers go. Nothing wrong with trying out new dealers. Someone has to be first. There are dealers out there who are not on the list at any fora who are quite good. We found some for the RDL at RWG1.1. I am shure that folk from here deal with a cpl of them allready and one is a small inderpendant dealer in GZ. all are proving to be great dealers and I would hope that one day they appear on other fora.

New folk should just stick to the list for shure but if someone doesn't take a chance everynow and again and then report back when a new, good dealer is found the RDL wil stagnate and I'm not shure that is a good thing at all. By all meens go out into the big wide web and try a new dealer or two as long as you are willing to acept that it may go bad. If you find a good 'un, try them again. If all works out spread the word to your mates and if enough good things are heard over a period of time the forum may have just found a new dealer. If not, cut your losses and PM Fakey ref a new addition to the scam list!

I agree with Fakey that price is not the be all and end all of a good dealer. There are more important things than that last few dollars saved. Service, before and after sale, QC and comunication are all more important than a few bucks saved.


Col.

 

[fitz146]

Hi,i took a chance and bought twice from a dealer that is not on the list and all went well.good communication,good quality for the price and fast delivery.I think it is good to try out new dealers ,more competition better quality better prices. i am new at the rep game and i understand the risks but nothing ventured nothing gained.

 

[coop]

Fakey,
I listen to ya! You spent alot on that list! And it a shame noobs dont read it.

I think they (noobs) should have to pass a test before being able to see the forum at all. The test should cover things like your scam list, paypal rep etiquette, and addressing problems with dealers.

New dealers come and go, and yes, we need to seek out new dealers. But during a search if you have a question about a dealer not on the list and others have negative info, its probably best to stay away.

Maybe Ive been doing this to long, but when I see someone ask about an unknown dealer and other members warn them to stay away, but then they still buy from them and get burned, I just have no sympathy.

If your going to try an untested, unknown source be prepared to get burned. If you do chalk it up to experience. If it turns out good pass on the info. But dont go in expecting the service of Hont or Time4direct and then complain when you dont get it.

 

[tommy_boy]

Fakey,

I think they (noobs) should have to pass a test before being able to see the forum at all. The test should cover things like your scam list, paypal rep etiquette, and addressing problems with dealers.

This, or something similar has been proposed in response to recent the flood of questions, etc. Seems productive, but is in realistic? Just wonderin'...

 

[ahw676]

It's a bit like when you really really want a girl, even though all your friends tell you she it a b***h...a little part wants to find out anyway - they might be wrong

Just thought you should give yourself some credit and not call that curious part "little".

And I agree that those who are seasoned rep collectors ought to try out new dealers once in a while. Noobs may not even realize if they've been scammed because they don't know what to look for, or how much something SHOULD cost.

One thing I'd suggest is that if you DO find a new and great dealer that you'd like to see added to the list some day, I'd PM it to a mod or admin, rather than posting it straightaway and looking like a shill. It's so hard for us to tell who's really trying to help and who needs banning.

Thanks.

 

[trailboss99]

Fakey,

I think they (noobs) should have to pass a test before being able to see the forum at all. The test should cover things like your scam list, paypal rep etiquette, and addressing problems with dealers.

This, or something similar has been proposed in response to recent the flood of questions, etc. Seems productive, but is in realistic? Just wonderin'...

I like Fakeys idea of making them read the noob guide and clicking on a button saying they have read it before being granted access to the rest of the site. Or at least before they get posting rights. Then there is no excuse for silly questions is there?


Col.

 

[coop]

Fakey,

I think they (noobs) should have to pass a test before being able to see the forum at all. The test should cover things like your scam list, paypal rep etiquette, and addressing problems with dealers.

This, or something similar has been proposed in response to recent the flood of questions, etc. Seems productive, but is in realistic? Just wonderin'...

I like Fakeys idea of making them read the noob guide and clicking on a button saying they have read it before being granted access to the rest of the site. Or at least before they get posting rights. Then there is no excuse for silly questions is there?


Col.

The problem with just having to click a button is that they will only click the button and not read. Quizing them is the only way to ensure they read.

This has been suggested many times in the past, in many ways. Will we ever find the right approach?

 

[replica80]

It's a bit like when you really really want a girl, even though all your friends tell you she it a b***h...a little part wants to find out anyway - they might be wrong

Just thought you should give yourself some credit and not call that curious part "little".

Touché In this case I was refering to the small part of my brain that always wants to learn things the hard way... As far as the curious part is concerned, 'little' would not fit the bill anyway 8)

 

[fakemaster]

See what I mean guys? Look at the post RIGHT AFTER it.

@fitz146

Once again it is NOT a question of whether we should or shouldn't try new dealers. And it certainly has no bearing on quality. If you believe that then you could not have read the Noobguide. Otherwise you'd know they all sell the same stuff. Thre is no 'dealer' with a better 'factory'. Let me put it yet another way........

Stick with the trusted dealers. Since they already provide the best available product in the market the most you could achieve using an unknown is status quo...with 'fear value' added in.

And coop I do believe they should be required to do something. It doesn't have be my guide necessary but it should be something.

 

[wat44]

we could have an entrance exam

seriously - you can have level 1 access until you pass the exam

wat$$