just trying to find out are all rep's watches not waterproof in particular the cartier santos 100 chronograph was told its water resistent to 30metres then i was advised that its not waterproof just need to know thanks.
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REP WATERPROOF OR NOT
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I would never try to risk using rep underwater or even dropped it.
Once i dropped my 253 and it stopped instantly
Once i dropped my 253 and it stopped instantly
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nickyg said:
Keep in mind that those markings on the dial might just be there to match the gen, but that just as the fact that it says Cartier doesn't make it really a Cartier, the claim that it's water resistant to 30 meters also may not hold true. Some of the folks here do swim and expose their watches to all sorts of water. But most of the time, they've taken it apart or had it taken apart where the seals could be checked to ensure water resistance too. Not too many would take the word of the dealer on that.
Thank you very much to all for your info as i'am a big noob here lol. will be making a purchase from mark at timesshop.net one other thing were do u guys go to get a rep serviced. I would of thought jewelers would say get out of my shop your watch is a fake etc etc.
Try to find a local watch place that's not an AD. Usually little mall kiosks are loaded with them. I'm sure at least a couple wouldn't mind the business.
I see this question so much. I think we need to know which dealers are saying what. So answer these questions.
Who specifically 'told' you that there is any such thing as 'Waterproof'?
Who specifically 'told' you this watch was 'Waterproof' to 30 metres which is roughly 100 feet or the equivalent of a four story building under water?
Who specifically 'told' you that there is any such thing as 'Waterproof'?
Who specifically 'told' you this watch was 'Waterproof' to 30 metres which is roughly 100 feet or the equivalent of a four story building under water?
Rep Cartier waterproof?? No Friggin Way!!!
I'm not even sure it can be unless it has screw-down crowns. Many Cartiers are quartz, do not have threaded crown tubes, and don't even have well-sealed crystals.
I'm not even sure it can be unless it has screw-down crowns. Many Cartiers are quartz, do not have threaded crown tubes, and don't even have well-sealed crystals.
As I understand it the recommendation is that a watch should be waterproof to 30m or 3 bars to be used for swimming. The reason is that the pressure is measured under stationary conditions.
At the moment I would recommend that you have your watch tested. I have done so on the local high street. At least the sports watches I use for the gym and swimming.
And so far I have only had positive test results (one AP, one Ebel and one really cheap Rolex). So although I would not trust any promises, so far it has all been OK.
What I would like would be for more data to be collected on this issue. There is no good reason that a cheap Timex can be waterproof and a $500 Hublot cannot be trusted to be so.
The dealers should test as a matter of course - at least so that one can swim with the watch - and guarantee their watches.
Some dealers do. I really hope that they are held accountable if the watch is not. Merely to accept that the watch probably is not waterproof isn't good enough!!!
Please could more people let us know about experiences with this issue.
At the moment I would recommend that you have your watch tested. I have done so on the local high street. At least the sports watches I use for the gym and swimming.
And so far I have only had positive test results (one AP, one Ebel and one really cheap Rolex). So although I would not trust any promises, so far it has all been OK.
What I would like would be for more data to be collected on this issue. There is no good reason that a cheap Timex can be waterproof and a $500 Hublot cannot be trusted to be so.
The dealers should test as a matter of course - at least so that one can swim with the watch - and guarantee their watches.
Some dealers do. I really hope that they are held accountable if the watch is not. Merely to accept that the watch probably is not waterproof isn't good enough!!!
Please could more people let us know about experiences with this issue.
Yes. Give me my individually tested eta for $100. And if something goes wrong you better replace it. You are too funny.
Don't be to hard on the Guy. He is only level 2 and starting to come around.
Seriously though the longer you hang here the more you will learn. Reps are hobbies and whilst we'd love all the bells and whistles of the reps to work like Gens they can't and won't. Thats why they are reps.
Remember these things are mass produced (unlike Gens) and cost $$$$$ less than a Gen.
Relax and just enjoy the watches, the forum and the banter. If you want a watch you can wear everyday and flog to death in the gym or when swimming etc buy a Gen that you can afford ie Seiko, Pulsar, Casio or one of the upmarket watches like a Tag if you can afford it etc
For most on this site, watches dont equate to ego. Infact we have people on here that own mickey mouse watches and rave about them.
cheers
747
Seriously though the longer you hang here the more you will learn. Reps are hobbies and whilst we'd love all the bells and whistles of the reps to work like Gens they can't and won't. Thats why they are reps.
Remember these things are mass produced (unlike Gens) and cost $$$$$ less than a Gen.
Relax and just enjoy the watches, the forum and the banter. If you want a watch you can wear everyday and flog to death in the gym or when swimming etc buy a Gen that you can afford ie Seiko, Pulsar, Casio or one of the upmarket watches like a Tag if you can afford it etc
For most on this site, watches dont equate to ego. Infact we have people on here that own mickey mouse watches and rave about them.
cheers
747
wow I just started on here and I have created quite a deep discussion..All I can say at the moment is one dealer has told me the watch is water resistant to 30meters when I clearly asked if its waterproof to 30 meters in water. anyay I don't mind as I have a gen breitling colt oceane automatic which is 8 years old and paid just under £1000 and has not missed a beat not even serviced yet but soon will be, that has depth of 500meters.
All I want is the truth which is hard to get these days oh well.
All I want is the truth which is hard to get these days oh well.
Here is the truth. There will always be somone who will tell you about their dive to the Titanic with their rep. But the OVERWHELMING majority of experiences are not so positive. Reps should not go near water as a rule. If you have them sealed and tested then you can go swimming with them. BUT due to the inconsistencies of fit and finish of materials you will never get the same depth as the gen. Hope this helped.
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Concur with the above. Don't even do the washing up wearing it untill it has been tested. Witjh a little grease most are OK to 30mt or so if you must but some will never be proofed. It just depends on wether "Mr Ling" sharpened the tools in the CNC machine the morning that yours was made or not.
Col.
Col.
Thanks for your comments and advice to this newcomer. You are right that one will have to put up with the reality of the market - until the customers (you and me) begin to make quality and not just appearance top priority.
I suspect that you will agree that there are very good watches out there. I have a $70 Rollie which I happily bash around on an everyday basis (after I had it pressure tested!). So it can be done.
Also there are many other good examples out there. Try and read the following thread on RWG: http://www.rwg.cc/members/Swim-Rep-SOSF-t96942.html
The point I am making, is that we would all benefit from more pressure on the dealers and manufacturers to get the quality sorted.
Examples: I see many reviews here with detailed measurement of minute details like dots in 3 o'clock position. - And no mentioning of waterproof. Why? Is this all about appearance and no substance?
I think that rep sites like this one can have quite a strong infulence on the rep-world. And I would like to see this used to improve the general quality level of the watches delivered.
I suspect that you will agree that there are very good watches out there. I have a $70 Rollie which I happily bash around on an everyday basis (after I had it pressure tested!). So it can be done.
Also there are many other good examples out there. Try and read the following thread on RWG: http://www.rwg.cc/members/Swim-Rep-SOSF-t96942.html
The point I am making, is that we would all benefit from more pressure on the dealers and manufacturers to get the quality sorted.
Examples: I see many reviews here with detailed measurement of minute details like dots in 3 o'clock position. - And no mentioning of waterproof. Why? Is this all about appearance and no substance?
I think that rep sites like this one can have quite a strong infulence on the rep-world. And I would like to see this used to improve the general quality level of the watches delivered.
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mbjoer said:
take your time and just look around here, a lot of information is in this forum,
just look here
viewtopic.php?f=115&t=40261
Thanks for this one.
This is excellent. Very detailed and very useful. - And demonstrating that it is possible to make a rep that is fit for purpose.
And it is not the only one which deals with the issue. So I am not shooting at the community as a whole, just requesting that quality gets more attention.
The interesting thing about the Breitling thread I refered to on RWG as well as the one mentioned above is how many positive experiences there are.
But these are not collected and analysed in more detail.
Too new here to know how to set up a poll, but would like a poll on specific models to get better info about the quality. There is no doubt that good info here shifts sales (I noticed how By-Tor's recommendation of Ebel 1911 Disc made prices go up...)
Breitling would be a good start given the info already there.
This is excellent. Very detailed and very useful. - And demonstrating that it is possible to make a rep that is fit for purpose.
And it is not the only one which deals with the issue. So I am not shooting at the community as a whole, just requesting that quality gets more attention.
The interesting thing about the Breitling thread I refered to on RWG as well as the one mentioned above is how many positive experiences there are.
But these are not collected and analysed in more detail.
Too new here to know how to set up a poll, but would like a poll on specific models to get better info about the quality. There is no doubt that good info here shifts sales (I noticed how By-Tor's recommendation of Ebel 1911 Disc made prices go up...)
Breitling would be a good start given the info already there.