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Superocean Steelfish from Watcheden: Spot the problem!!!

fakemaster

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That is the old stye. So whether you have the new or old hand both are correct.
 

dellhd101

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fakemaster said:
That is the old stye. So whether you have the new or old hand both are correct.



that's really good news fakey! mucho tanks!!! :mrgreen:
 

Time4Direct

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I am no real expert on Breitling but I was under the impression red automatic text= arrow head second hand .
This is only from feedback from customers I do know thet the current model has an arrow head second hand and a 2 tier winder crown other than that it's only what people tell me.
The watch from D4M is not the same watch as the Watcheden one the D4M is the better version I don't know the Watcheden model but i's not from the factory that make the best Superocean reps
Yes thats right it is the old model not the newer model has the old style bezel pre 2005
The watcheden watch has a never used second hand though and flat winder crown end
 

dellhd101

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Time4Direct said:
I am no real expert on Breitling but I was under the impression red automatic text= arrow head second hand .
This is only from feedback from customers I do know thet the current model has an arrow head second hand and a 2 tier winder crown other than that it's only what people tell me.
The watch from D4M is not the same watch as the Watcheden one the D4M is the better version I don't know the Watcheden model but i's not from the factory that make the best Superocean reps
Yes thats right it is the old model not the newer model has the old style bezel pre 2005

does anyone have a Briet catalog? I will order one but that will take some time (if they will even send one).
 

dellhd101

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rooster133 said:
Earlier today I received a Steelfsih from Watcheden. I think it's not right, or at least it's not as good as other reps of this watch out there. I couldn't see it from the pictures on the website, but then after seeing it in real life I went back to WE's site and yes, I could see the problem. Can you see it too? Here's the watch in question:

http://www.watcheden.com/breitling-supe ... 2-p-1.html

I will let you guess what's wrong with it, then tomorrow when I have my camera I will post pictures of my actual watch. Guesses anyone?

roost, are you going to keep the WE model or send back?
 
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d4m.test

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Man I just ordered this watch about a week ago as well, don't know what I am going to do, does anyone know where to get a replacement crown?

I think im going to try and paint my second hand unless someone knows where to get a replacement.
 

dellhd101

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Man I just ordered this watch about a week ago as well, don't know what I am going to do, does anyone know where to get a replacement crown?

I think im going to try and paint my second hand unless someone knows where to get a replacement.


I just saw a review post on repgeek which said Breit quit using the box hand on these in 2008 and went to the pointer (arrow) instead.
 
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d4m.test

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I just saw a review post on repgeek which said Breit quit using the box hand on these in 2008 and went to the pointer (arrow) instead.

Ya but the second hand I am receiving is the one that is not fully painted, or was this an actual hand that was made?
 

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Ok guys, sorry I was asleep in my time zone so I missed all the developments...

Yes, you are correct about what annoyed me!! It's the hands. The red on the seconds hand is wrong. Also the minute and hour hands are a tad too long. The crown doesn't bug me, and CERTIFIE is correct (in French it's correct to drop the accent when capitalising the word "certifié").

This is not what I wanted, and it's a lesson to inspect pictures very very carefully when ordering from a dealer. That watcheden text over the watch and the size of the pics didn't make it easy though, and this is the perfect example of something you will notice only after the purchase.

Not sure what I'll do about it. Given that the SO has a reputation as one of the most accurate reps out of the box, it's silly to have such an obvious inaccuracy, which no doubt will drive me crazy and will confine the watch to the watchbox. I'll think about it.
 

dellhd101

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wondered where you were roosting roost! i will try to find that pix of the new arrow hand and post it. thanks to all (esp. T4D) who have helped us get this far on the issue and please stay tuned :mrgreen: .
 

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Ok guys, sorry I was asleep in my time zone so I missed all the developments...

LOL. See what happens when you leave a thread unattended? In four short pages 100 flaws were invented, the SOSF went from the best out of the box rep to one of the worst and unless you have the pointed hand model you will get called out at the food court. :p
 

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fakemaster said:
Ok guys, sorry I was asleep in my time zone so I missed all the developments...

LOL. See what happens when you leave a thread unattended? In four short pages 100 flaws were invented, the SOSF went from the best out of the box rep to one ofthe worst and unless you have the pointed hand model you will get called out at the food court. :p

Yeah, no kidding!! And now I'm unsure what the heck a good SOSF is supposed to look like. Anyway, correct me if I am wrong, this is what has just transpired:

- Both the version with the arrow and the version with the 'box' hand are correct.
- When the SOSF comes with the box hand, the box should be red.

So, the watcheden version is wrong no matter what (it has the wrong second hand). No one commented on the length of the hands... they also seem to be a bit too long.

As for the other flaws: The He valve is pretty fugly, but it's no major deal. Not sure about the crown... And someone mentioned the bezel too - what's wrong with that?
 

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Don't know where you get so many flaws 'fakemaster" I see only 2 and they were there all the time!

To make this clear

Old model is ok with square second hand if the old style bezel is used

Current models have arrow head second hand and revised bezel

both have 2 tier winder crown
 

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Agree with T4D. Just to add on top of that, The squares and triangle supposed to be lumed too. In the rep watches, none of the rep dial comes with lumed squares and triangle.
 

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Time4Direct said:
To make this clear

Old model is ok with square second hand if the old style bezel is used

Current models have arrow head second hand and revised bezel

both have 2 tier winder crown

Ok, so am I getting this right: the only major problem with the watcheden version is that the square should be painted red (and I still think the hands are too long). Other than that the bezel matches the style of the seconds hand and is therefore correct. The crown remains wrong.
 

fakemaster

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Yeah it has gotten all turned around to the point where a noob wouldn't be able to make heads or tails of it.

- When the SOSF comes with the box hand, the box should be red.

Yes as I said on page one that is correct. There was a huge batch of incorrect second hands made some time back. They've made their way into circulation now and will be showing up everywhere for a long time. Much like the defective 7750s.

- Both the version with the arrow and the version with the 'box' hand are correct.

Once again yes. The pointed hand is only a little more than 12 months old. It's the engraved rehaut on the Subs all ovr again. As I've said, we'll all be dead before the number of pointed hands catch up with the number of non. What do people think that the people who own the older ones have thrown them away? Plus Breitling has changed the SO four times in the last seven years. So get a grip. Odds are the pointed hand won't even be made in a couple of years.

Now I would tell you to look for the pointed hand model. Not for any of the reasons above but simply because it is red.
 
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d4m.test

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Ok so with all this said, does anyone know where the three of us so far could get a the boxed second hand that was correct?