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need advice before buying a UPO

F*ZZ

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hello there,
im was about to buy a PO quantum of solace edition, then i thought maybe this wouldnt be my best choice, since it doesnt look that good!
so 10 mins ago i was goin to buy a Planet Ocean Casino Royale edition "Asia Movement" from watcheden.com, then when i looked closer i noticed the date font, the inaccuracy of the "007" on the seconds hand, and of course the logo, so i thought maybe someone here could give me some advice about this before i do something im gona regret!!
is there an "Ultimate version" of this version?!! :?
I live in the middle east and i just started this hobbie, and im lovin it!!
Thanks
 

36anne63

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I would like to add.... buying now will take a extra week or 2 .
They have Chinese new year!

Anne-marie ( can`t wait till it`s over ) :D
 

F*ZZ

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wow the shortest answer ive ever seen!!
guess ill just go ahead and buy it, hope it looks as good as it does in the pics,
thx fakemaster
 

COLDI

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Why not just get a regular upo and that wya you won't have to worry about the font ect?
 

fakemaster

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I am confused. You hope it looks as good as it does in the pictures that you said looked so bad? :?

Good luck with that. :p
 

F*ZZ

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19/1/09
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sorry im kinda confused myself! :wink:
what i meant was i hope what i mentioned would be the only things wrong with it,
im also looking for a rubber strap for it, but they cost like 70$!! thats more than half of the price of the whole watch!
 

fakemaster

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That seems a bit much for a strap. And I'm sure mechanically the watch will be the same. It will just suck visually. Which movement are you going for?
 

F*ZZ

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thats the problem i dont want it to suck visually!!
im lookin for asian movement, but the logo thing really buggs me! its hard for me to recieve the watch then resend it for modification cuz i live in the middle east,
and the straps out there are just too expensive out there, or maybe i havent done enough research
 

fakemaster

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Well I've always said that since the fen only runs at 25,200 going more than a 21J is overkil. To be honest I would tell you don't get it. If the logo is bugging you that much now I promise it will make you crazy leter.
 

takashi

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I would avoid getting this 21j version. It's not as good as the more expensive ETA clone movement. Top it up a little bit and you will get a much better replica IMHO. You need to modify the dial (logo problem) and running second hand too (not correct for this model). As for final result, you should get this one:

That's after changing the dial, hands, crown and AR coated crystal. Anyway, the 70USD strap is not accurate. The texture of the rubber and the feel of it is different from genuine strap (costs about 140USD).

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F*ZZ

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How much would all these mods cost?
as i mentioned, im not sure if i can send it for modification,
im still looking around to make the besy choice in buying my first replica, so far this model and Calibre 17 caught my attention, but i think if i wait some maybe better versions will come out, if they ever do
what i dont get is, if a noob like me noticed all these mistakes, how come the manufacturers didnt?!! experts are supposed to be working on this!!
 

takashi

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Probably will cost you several hundred dollars and you need to be patient to wait for the parts and modding job.

If you are looking very close replica that needs little modification/no mods at all, I should recommend PAM Fer008, Breitling SteelFish Superocean or Avenger. There are many Hublots, IWCs and Tags to choose from too.

Currently good Omega reps is the blue chronograph Seamaster and Planet Ocean 45.5mm (so called UPO).

The manufacturer won't care about such mistakes. Why should they? Their objectives is to save money and to make more profits. People still buy these reps even with flaws.
 

trailboss99

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takashi said:
I would avoid getting this 21j version. It's not as good as the more expensive ETA clone movement.


What's not to like about the 21J? As FM has stated the gen is only a low rate MVT so the high rate ETA is actualy less correct in this model. There is nothing wrong with the 21j MVT it's self, bullet proof would be the words to describe it. It keeps time as well as the ETA clone, + ten to -6 sec is the usual range after a tweeking. When it does eventualy die replaceing it should set you back no more than twenty five bucks for the MVT. Plus your watchmakers time of cause. Appart from the slower beat rate there is nothing bad about the 21j movement that I am aware of. The example I have been deliberatly misstreating for the past ten mths just won't die. It's the MVT I have least trouble with and in this case is approriate for the watch due to it's having the correct beat. This si one of the times you could be called on a MVT beating too fast!

As for a strap, have a look here: http://www.globalwatchband.com/ They have some nice Sillcone ones and a cpl of carbon fiber ones as well as water proof leather and shark skin. If you can't match the gen strap, get away from it entirly. People do put aftermarket straps on gens you know :)


Col.
 

takashi

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the 21j movement won't have the correct beat too in this case (not 25000bph). Furthermore, upgrading the parts will be a problem too (gen hands and dial won't fit). Apart from that, datefont will be wrong too.

A much better candidate will be the group buy UPO with clone movement from d4me.
 

F*ZZ

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i appreciate y'alls help,
im not really concerned about the movement, its seems like it would be fine, as it was mentioned before in earlier posts,
as modification, i guess it would be better if i bought the UPO, i checked out the webiste u provided trailboss, they dont have Omega straps, i saw a couple of rubber bands that look pretty good on ioffer.com, for only 30$! but im gona focus on the watch now not the straps
 

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takashi said:
the 21j movement won't have the correct beat too in this case (not 25000bph). Furthermore, upgrading the parts will be a problem too (gen hands and dial won't fit). Apart from that, datefont will be wrong too.

A much better candidate will be the group buy UPO with clone movement from d4me.


Oke, if there's a whole heap of mods planed you're correct of cause. I didn't think the OP was going to be doing much. Didn't know about the date font either.
How far out is whatever one they use with the 21j?

As for straps,
they dont have Omega straps
Yep, they don't. That's what I ment mate. If you can't afford the gen strap and the rep strap is not up to scratch just put an aftermarket strap on it rather than a poor imitation of the gen. Folk swap to non genuine straps all the time. Don't feel there's a need for it to be a gen strap. It ain't like bracelets where it's basicly gen (or rep there of) or nothing. A lot of the time a gen ( or rep gen) buckle will fit an aftermarket strap and you can use that as well.

Col.
 

takashi

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The font is pretty much different. Check out the 3, 7 and 8 in particular.

Correct for the strap, I think rep bracelet is already very good and genuine strap probably costs you a lot more than the watch. You can use genuine buckle. Ofrei has a tang buckle for affordable price.
 

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I am yet to see a realy good rep strap (Hubolt excepted). They do some lovely Bracelets, especialy the Briet ones but most straps are crap. Mostly they can't even sew straight! I tend to order on steel even if I intend to put it on a strap. Then you have the bracelet to swap, trade or sell the watch on later. The price is the same and the bracelet is so much more usefull than a crappy strap. I'm starting to like straps more and more. You saw the pic of KBHs PO on carbon, stunning, IMO.

Col.
 

F*ZZ

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i think im gona do some more research, i dont wana get it wrong the first time, since this is my first replica!
so its either gona be a UPO, or a good version of "Casino Royale", or a better version of "Calibre 17"
ill be posting pics as soon as i get it
thx again