Is this Daytona a good buy? Picture included

[seventhexile]

A ..semi local gentalman is offering this daytona for $150
I asked him where he got it and he said:
"The watch was given to me as a gift, so I am unsure of the maker - It is a very solid watch, no scratches or signs of wear anywhere. I have attached an actual pic."
Which you saw from above.

- I've asked him a few more questions such as if the 3 hands are fixed or if they work as well.
- He already said the movment of the second hand looks fluid and its hard to see any tick motion at all.
- I asked him for a side shot of the watch to see the depth of the watch.. also to see if there is a crown w/ 3 dotts under it.
and finally I asked to see the serial numbers on either side of the watch (this however I might not get from him.. since like me he doesnt know all the much about reps. and might be scared to try and take the bands off..)

anyways hopefully I can post more pics later today or tomorrow - but until then..
I would like your thoughts.. comments.. concerns
and if you like 150 is to much..

- Chris

 

[Dizzy]

well it looks like it might have a chronograph movement by looking at the dial... the asian7750 sec@6.. If it does have working chronographs then it might be worth $150 assuming it does actually work and keep time and YES its a BAD movement. If its a faux chrono watch then its worth maybe half the asking price.

If it works and looks good then $150 is ok.. but i would say free shipping too haha

dizz

 

[coop]

The 21,600 movement itself is not bad. But the modification to run the seconds at six is what screws it. I do remember a how to posted on using graphite to solve the problem.

 

[seventhexile]

He did say that it does keep correct time.. but its off by a few seconds at the end of the day.
then again.. people say alot of things when their trying to sell something.. haha

I know its not the best of pictures, but does it look correct compaired to the real thing.
_ I can upload a larger pic of it if that would help.

And .. again since I'm new - when we say bad movment .. how bad is bad?
relative to starting out on my .. unfortunatly low college kid funds..
is it something people are going to easliy notice a tick in? or do you mean bad as in quick to break..

and coop do you mean using graphite as a loob? - think I actually have some of that around here from my lock picking days (no no not anything bad, locks just make a damn good puzzle to solve)

-Ex

 

[Dizzy]

incase you dont know.. this is a VERY unreliable watch.. the sec@6 subdial conversion is an absolute disaster and i would avoid it like the plague. BUT if you really want a Daytona, and this one actually does work.. then go for it.

 

[seventhexile]

Ah well thats easy enough to understand haha
I'll just stick to the noobmariner for my first rep ..
no need to try and get overly fancey first time around..

thanks for all the help everyone

-Ex

 

[simonsays]

if you look at the chrono sec hand, its in the same position as the sec @6 hand. i suspect this is an asian 21j where the sec @6 AND the chrono sec run continually. the other chronos will be faux. ive got a tt model of this watch from our beloved wbk, and the sec @ 6 hand does indeed sweep nicely. it also has none of the sec @ 6 7750 reliability problems.

he sells them for $95. i wouldnt pay more than $100 for the watch .

si

 

[supermanx]

I would also guess this is a 21j, and yes $150 is waaayyyy tooo high. I remember about 6 months ago someone had 2 they were trying to sell and if I remember correctly they were on the block for a while until the price dropped to about $70/shipped.

 

[seventhexile]

Alright so to sum up what I've learned so far (via this thread and everyones kind input)

- 150 = 2 much !
- asian7750 sec@6 = stay away from .. " avoid like the plague" haha thx dizzy for that, everytime I see Asian7750 that quotes guna be in the back of my head!
- The chrono sec hand is in the same position as the sec @6 hand. Good catch simon.. (question though, how come yours doesnt have any of the 7750 problems? .. different parts put in it?)

now.. just to help me clerify..
is a 21j bad?.. what I mean is do I always want to go for ETA?
I've never seen a 21j movment in person.. so I've been wondering if you can see the ticks (even if it is slight) .. and then ETA just means its a better quality parts over all.

hm think that noobmeriner I was going to get has a 21j to it..
but everyone says thats where to start and what not.. so might as well get my feet wet there and see what its like.. get a little more familiar with everything
and then go for a full swim!

-Ex

 

[simonsays]

a21 is one of the most reliable chinese movements out there. its a good choice for a rep because you can buy a new movement for a few dollars so your rep should be cheap to maintain! it sweeps pretty good but at 6 beats per sec not the 8 of gens.

in the daytona its still reliable because it doesnt have a clumsily executed gear train transfering the secs from 9 to 6. if you want a daytona its probably one of the best to go for.... certainly the cheapest!

my first watch was an omega smp with a 21j chinese movement. its still one of my favourites. you cant go wrong with a well executed rep driven by an a21.

si

 

[fakemaster]

Just try and stop the big sweep hand with the pusher. If it stops it's a 7750. If not it's Asian. If it is Asian it is roughly a $100 watch depending on how it looks in person.

 

[seventhexile]

I'm a little confused
what makes

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=41246&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
worth $230 - (other then maybe the visual look of it? )

vrs the one that I posted earlier.

both use an asian 7750 movement - But for the one I posted thats bad, and for his its good?
different style of a 7750?

I'm still trying to learn everything I can, so bear with me if its a really basic answer and I'm missing something obvious

-Ex

 

[trevor2079]

If you are looking for a more accurate replica, you are looking for a 7750 movement. This means the chrono functions work. If it has a 21J movement, the chrono functions will not work. When you depress the pushers, they will not start or stop the chrono second hand as they should.

The problem is a daytona with seconds at 6 is not the most reliable watches out there. It is however more true to the original than any other movement placed in a daytona. I personally haven't had an issue with seconds at 6, but I may be the exception to the rule.

So, if it has a 7750 and your dead set on a daytona which functions similar to the GEN, it might be for you. Just don't be too down if it stops working....

 

[KBH]

I'm a little confused
what makes

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=41246&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
worth $230 - (other then maybe the visual look of it? )

vrs the one that I posted earlier.

both use an asian 7750 movement - But for the one I posted thats bad, and for his its good?
different style of a 7750?

I'm still trying to learn everything I can, so bear with me if its a really basic answer and I'm missing something obvious

-Ex

Just my opinion but if it's a good working 7750, and you like it, it's probably worth the $150.

If the other watch you mentioned here gets down near to that price range I'd jump all over it. I'm just not willing to spend over $200 on what may be a "ticking time bomb".

 

[seventhexile]

[/quote]

Just my opinion but if it's a good working 7750, and you like it, it's probably worth the $150.

If the other watch you mentioned here gets down near to that price range I'd jump all over it. I'm just not willing to spend over $200 on what may be a "ticking time bomb".[/quote]

Ah ok, So both are ticking time bombs.
I wasn't sure if the one that I left a link to had a different kind of 7750 movment or such.
That makes scense so the price differences are primarily in the looks, not in the movment quality as they are both the same.
That solves my confusion.

- Ex

 

[fakemaster]

Unless you check the movement as I suggested I can't tell you what the differences if any there are.