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[Natron]

need to adjust time on an ETA 2846 that is running a bit fast. Can anyone help or should I take it to the shop

Natron

 

[R2D4]

2836?

 

[Natron]

i believe it is 2846

 

[R2D4]

If it is ETA they should be the same with the exception of one or two. This is not a very good picture but you should find a something with a plus and a minus thing. I believe you losen the screw and adjust acordingly. I have heard people say to adjust it as minutly as possible as a little goes a long way. Hope someone else chimes in because this is a bad photo.

 

[Natron]

i will try again this evening. If I cannot do it I will take it o the watchsmith tomorrow as he is closed on mondays. he adjusted the spring that came loose last week but didnt even mess with the timing of it.

when it is fixed I may put the rollie up for sale as I am getting tired of reps. I love watches and may just stick with a few decent pieces

Natron

 

[R2D4]

i will try again this evening. If I cannot do it I will take it o the watchsmith tomorrow as he is closed on mondays. he adjusted the spring that came loose last week but didnt even mess with the timing of it.

when it is fixed I may put the rollie up for sale as I am getting tired of reps. I love watches and may just stick with a few decent pieces

Natron

I just realized something, Could the 2846 you speak of be the 2842 Swatch movement? http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html scroll down to the 2842. Your watch guy should be able to adjust it.

 

[fakemaster]

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I believe the 2846 is the slower beat version (21.600) of the 2824 (28.800). It also does not have a hack mechanism.

 

[R2D4]

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I believe the 2846 is the slower beat version (21.600) of the 2824 (28.800). It also does not have a hack mechanism.

Fakie, your probably right on the money. I have not heard of the 2846 so I thought it could be a 2842 which is a swatch movement.

 

[Natron]

it is stamped 2846 right in the movement. I was told it was a 2824 when i got it but upon further review i found out different. Not a big deal as I like the watch, just one of those misleading misprints in an ad.

Natron

 

[fakemaster]

Further research has determine that the 2824 is also in the same family with the 2836-2. It ranks like this.

1. 2836-2 25 Jewel ETA - 28,800 BPH. Top end actually made in Switzerland
2. 2824 25 Jewel - 28,800 BPH. Asian copy
3. 2846 21 Jewel - 21,600 BPH. No hack mechanism. Asain Lowest end.

 

[R2D4]

Further research has determine that the 2824 is also in the same family with the 2836-2. It ranks like this.

1. 2836-2 25 Jewel ETA - 28,800 BPH. Top end actually made in Switzerland
2. 2824 25 Jewel - 28,800 BPH. Asian copy
3. 2846 21 Jewel - 21,600 BPH. No hack mechanism. Asain Lowest end.

There are actually 2 grades of the 2824. The Malaysian Assembly and Swiss Assembly. Also they can range from 17jewels and up.

 

[d4m.test]

this might help you tune it:
watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13FpX2Ylo9E
I tuned a few watches of mine to run +20s/day. awesome.

-bk

 

[BYRON]

I bought a BIANCI watch with an ETA 2846 in Dec. off the internet and after the 6 week break-in period it was still running 15 seconds a day slow. I removed the back and adjusted the timing mechanism to my computer clock and then waited an hour and checked and it was then running WAY too fast so I went back and forth with the timing screw for many times a day for a week until I finally got the watch within 10 seconds a day. It can be done but it is frustrating. The secret for me was when the watch is too slow, gently tap the timing to the left --it may not even seem to move--then wait and test to the computer (or internet) clock. Keep doing this slowly. It is almost impossible to adjust accurately from fast to slow because you can not tap the mechanism to the left in small enough increments. I don't think I want to try to do mine again -- it was too frusrtating and at first I thought I had really screwed up.

 

[coop]

Further research has determine that the 2824 is also in the same family with the 2836-2. It ranks like this.

1. 2836-2 25 Jewel ETA - 28,800 BPH. Top end actually made in Switzerland
2. 2824 25 Jewel - 28,800 BPH. Asian copy
3. 2846 21 Jewel - 21,600 BPH. No hack mechanism. Asain Lowest end.

Where does the 2813 asian copy fit in? I have noticed Josh is not advertising it as 28,800 anymore.

 

[fakemaster]

As I noted in my recent review of the Beginmariner, Josh has changed the movement that he is using from he 2813 Eta to that blue screwed version. Obviously an attempt to cut costs so he can continue selling the BM at the same price. Not the same value as before.

 

[jdavis]

The DG2813 (Asian 21j) is not an ETA movement. If you look at it, it does not resemeble the ETA movement at all. It looks more like a copy of the Miyota movements. It was being modified to beat at 28.8K to mimick the sweep of the higher beat gens. I agree with Fakie that Joshua probably went back to the unmodified DG2813 movement in order to keep the cost as low as possible. Regardless, most people won't see the beat difference unless they can watch it for a while.

 

[R2D4]

Here is some crazy ass news regarding this subject. I bought this watch from Natron. I expected it to be a hunk o 21.6BPH datewheel scrap heap. But after my watch smith timed it, guess what 28.8 BPH. Make's you wonder!

 

[cybee]

The DG2813 (Asian 21j) is not an ETA movement. If you look at it, it does not resemeble the ETA movement at all. It looks more like a copy of the Miyota movements. It was being modified to beat at 28.8K to mimick the sweep of the higher beat gens.

The DG 2813 is actually 22 jewels and beats at 28.8. Here is 2813-2S but same specs.

http://www.stylewatch.com/SWBigPhoto.as ... 2&PID=5801

 

[R2D4]

The DG2813 (Asian 21j) is not an ETA movement. If you look at it, it does not resemeble the ETA movement at all. It looks more like a copy of the Miyota movements. It was being modified to beat at 28.8K to mimick the sweep of the higher beat gens. I agree with Fakie that Joshua probably went back to the unmodified DG2813 movement in order to keep the cost as low as possible. Regardless, most people won't see the beat difference unless they can watch it for a while.

Bologna/Sausage! 21.6 in an Asian movement is like watching my cable box dither. Unless you have a A7750 or sub seconds on a smaller scale it's a big difference. I can see it while in conversation with a someone. (I can't multitask doing anything, but I can keep a conversation and look at a watch) Yes, Fakie meant to say DG 2813.

BTW: Hi JDavis! I haven't crossed paths with you in a long time. Hope all is well.