Classic Titanium Sweetness... 177H

[seraphe]

After a long 2 months wait with many bouts of excitement and disappointment, yet another of my dream PAM-trinity is finally done. My happiness is beyond what I expected. Thought I should share this happiness here

- TWP modded 177H; 'Plume' relumed
- Vaccum Ti Palp+CG mod
- Titanium buckle from Davidsen
- Black calf stitchless from Savage

 

[MEYER8888]

very nice pictures the mouvement look good, very class watch.
she s come from davidsen too?
nice choise
sylvain

 

[Panama]

she s come from davidsen too?
nice choise
sylvain

watch from TWP (on board dealer), mods by master vaccum. :wink:
I`m not shure if its swiss or asian?
Good choice anayway, I like it. Pics are fine also seraphe...

Cheers
Panama

 

[moggio]

very nice piece...i fall in lvoe wit h the strap..lovely dude

 

[jb]

That is one great looking watch, and that strap fits it perfectly.

Seeing pictures of watches like this really make me miss my 177.

 

[hooligan]

Great looking watch seraphe.

This wouldn't be the same seraphe that bought my OEM Panerai 27/22 black calf strap would it? If so, I'm shipping it out this morning. :wink:

 

[seraphe]

Great looking watch seraphe.

This wouldn't be the same seraphe that bought my OEM Panerai 27/22 black calf strap would it? If so, I'm shipping it out this morning. :wink:

Haha indeed I was the one who hounded you for a non-CONUS delivery Thanks, man

@Panama: It's the new Asian 3647 clone, not swiss. Shouldn't be coz I bought Asian... unless it's a surprise bonus from TWP

 

[hooligan]

seraphe -- based on the Novodiac shock system vs. the Incabloc, I would say that is a Swiss movement. Are the spokes of the balance wheel straight or do the flare at the ends? If they are straight, I say Swiss for certain. I still say Swiss just based on the Novodiac shock system. AFAIK, there have been no documented cases of the new Asian movements using anything but the Incabloc movement. vaccum did a review of the Swiss and Asian side by side, his photos show the visual differences between the Novodiac and Incabloc systems.

Hmmmmmmm... :?:

 

[seraphe]

Looks like a Novadiac... The top of the balance regulator is flat, no grooves...

Like this...

 

[hooligan]

Yep, exactly. That's why I say Swiss. The Asian ones all use the Incabloc system, AFAIK.

 

[JOEJOEJOE]

Very nice - one of the best rep 177H I've seen.

J

 

[horologie_unitas]

seraphe -- based on the Novodiac shock system vs. the Incabloc, I would say that is a Swiss movement. Are the spokes of the balance wheel straight or do the flare at the ends? If they are straight, I say Swiss for certain. I still say Swiss just based on the Novodiac shock system. AFAIK, there have been no documented cases of the new Asian movements using anything but the Incabloc movement. vaccum did a review of the Swiss and Asian side by side, his photos show the visual differences between the Novodiac and Incabloc systems.

Hmmmmmmm... :?:

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hooligan....i appreciate your contris....but i have my thoughts. ok, .....spokes of balance wheel straight ( swiss ) - if they flare....( asian)
in my opinion.....RUMOR ! please look at the pics, and look at the spokes...all are flared out.....so they must be all ASIAN !
everybody, please comment your thoughts and experiences !!

no doubt...they are all 100% SWISS

 

[MK08]

Great looking 177, it's one of my favorite pams, enjoy it.

 

[seraphe]

What I think... again, not backed by any proof... is that Swiss 6497 do not, if not seldom, come with the flare spokes. Either there is no spoke, as in the case of my 177h, or straight spokes. The pictures shown by HU are of gen 6497-based OP movements, where Panerai chose to have the flare spokes on the OP movements.

Now why hooligan might think the flare spokes on a Panerai rep would mean it's an Asian movement is because we seldom see a swiss ETA 6497 with the flare spokes.

That's how I understood hooligan.

 

[subseeker]

I am not a pam lover, but that watch is just beautiful.
Simple & clean... and extremely close to a gen...

Nice... I am drooling...

 

[babola]

The mov't ticking in Seraphe's 177 is Swiss ETA 6497-1.

HU, flared balance wheel spokes come on both genuine PAM (Soprod) 6497-2 movt's as well as all Asian rep 6497-1/-2 mov'ts, and Swiss-Asian hybrids.

The one in Seraphe's watch is Swiss ETA with non-modded original stock ETA factory balance wheel and anti-shock assembly, that's all really.

cheers,
babola

 

[hooligan]

Yeah, I was excluding gen 6497-2s from that statement, h_u. Sorry, I should have been more clear.

Back to the original point, that movement in seraphe's watch is Swiss. :wink: