Is there any hope of an improved Portuguese?

[evilgenius88]

I simply loooove [smilie=love7.gif] the Portuguese chrono reps, I've also had a Portuguese on my wrist recently and was almost tempted to buy the gen. Although I soon realized it would mean me having to sell crack to kids or having to perform 'favors for sailors", and that I could get something like 20 reps for that money, I still was reluctant to take it off.

Of course, the big problem with the Portuguese rep is that the second hand at 6 is a ticking time bomb. I was thinking of buying a gen 7750 Valjoux and installing it in the rep Portuguese, but the problem in the Portuguese, as far as i know, is the 5 gears that are added so the seconds can be at 6.

Are there any chances (as far as you know) of a newer movement / Portuguese model coming out in the near future (let's say one year?). I'm still tempted to buy the current rep, but it just seems as a waste of money right now.

 

[Masticore]

I highly doubt it that a newer chrono movement will be released in the next year or two. The only plausible "improvment", if you would mind calling it that, would be a quartz movement.

So your best shoot is to buy a porto, and hope for the best; that you wont receive a watch that will turn fubar sooner or later.

 

[Badger]

While the second hand is a pain from what I've read, I wish the manufacturers could fix the minute ring to look original with the three ticks instead of the four everyone has. Any WIS can pick that off a mile away.

 

[Vric]

I also love the Portuguese, but like you, I think it's a waste of money. The watch will die sooner or later and a service and/or movement swap won't solve anything.

As for Quartz, there is some available already. (Wo-Mart have one.. doesn't look as good sadly)

 

[Deltick]

Is this a general problem with the Asian 7750?

 

[fletch512]

Is this a general problem with the Asian 7750?

The Asian 7750 is problematic unless it's serviced. However, when the seconds subdial is moved to a different location as in the Portuguese or Rolie Daytona, the added strain on the movement from the transfer gears causes the movement to break down even more often than normal. My Portuguese died in the first three days. Shame, because I really liked the looks.

 

[pugwash]

Is this a general problem with the Asian 7750?

No. It's only a problem with the modified 7750 used in Daytonas, Portochronos and Ingenieur Chronos. Moving the seconds to 6 o'clock causes too much strain on the drive train. Other modified 7750s, like the tri-compax 3-6-9 mod are as reliable as the normal 7750s.

 

[piratedzeus]

Is this a general problem with the Asian 7750?

No. It's only a problem with the modified 7750 used in Daytonas, Portochronos and Ingenieur Chronos. Moving the seconds to 6 o'clock causes too much strain on the drive train. Other modified 7750s, like the tri-compax 3-6-9 mod are as reliable as the normal 7750s.

Only as long you don't use the chrono. Using the chrono uses the modification.... which might cause trouble.

 

[Vric]

Is this a general problem with the Asian 7750?

No. It's only a problem with the modified 7750 used in Daytonas, Portochronos and Ingenieur Chronos. Moving the seconds to 6 o'clock causes too much strain on the drive train. Other modified 7750s, like the tri-compax 3-6-9 mod are as reliable as the normal 7750s.

Only as long you don't use the chrono. Using the chrono uses the modification.... which might cause trouble.

Yes but that "modification" tick only once by minutes, not 8 time by seconds. And only when you use the chrono. So the 3-6-9 isn't much more trouble movement wise than the 6-9-12 (but it add few problem with the date window being too far away)

 

[pugwash]

Only as long you don't use the chrono. Using the chrono uses the modification.... which might cause trouble.

Not true. The modification isn't under constant power, like on the seconds-at-six.

 

[evilgenius88]

I'm a bit confused now... are you saying that:

An Asian 7750 that has RUNNING seconds at 6 can be ok as long as you stay away from the chrono?

 

[Vric]

I'm a bit confused now... are you saying that:

An Asian 7750 that has RUNNING seconds at 6 can be ok as long as you stay away from the chrono?

No.. chrono or not, it will die sooner or later.

 

[evilgenius88]

How dead are we talking then? Die as in: "it will never work again" or die as in: "needs servicing / repair by watch smith" ?

 

[rmcsherry]

You could always buy mine off of me and find out I've not had any problems since getting it, although I don't want to jinx myself.

 

[evilgenius88]

Weheelll... which one do you have?

 

[Vric]

How dead are we talking then? Die as in: "it will never work again" or die as in: "needs servicing / repair by watch smith" ?

Well if you read a bit on this exacte same topic, you will see that we said a Servicing / repair won't do anything.

7750 movement with second at 6 is simply a very bad design and will die sooner or later. (completely dead.. do you know anything that is half dead ? )

Daytonas and Portuguese are time bombs..

 

[Pix]

How dead are we talking then?

I love that question, even if I quote it out of its context ... :lol:

 

[geo1nah2a]

There is a new Portuguese coming out. The dial improvement is that it has 3 ticks per 5 minutes. A lot of people were complaining about it from the start! I can't see if they improved the dial by using embossed numerals (vs stick ons we had on the previous version).
Looks like it got a different bezel too.
Now for the caliber, it is reported as asian7750, but maybe this time they adopted a different solution to move the hands around? Hope so!



(Noinside info, just looking at some new pictures over at king's album..)

 

[brep]

Truly a shame - I keep wanting to talk myself into the Portuguese, but logic overrules...

 

[brep]

Another thought - can the Lemania movement be a viable solution? It is in the "complicated" Portuguese... The watch has a closed back anyway... I know, not perfect, but better than a dead 7750, right?