5 Star Dealers?

[wtchlvr]

Typically when you have a good experience with purchasing someone you may tell one person or even nobody. However, when you have a bad experience, chances are you will tell every person you run into.

Normally, I would agree with you, however people appear to be scared of complaining about the replica dealers for some reason. :shock:

Took the words right out of my mouth. Why is that? I am guilty of that as well. It just seems everytime someone speaks out against a reputable dealer they get flamed. (i know there is a flame free section)

 

[Maestrosa]

Typically when you have a good experience with purchasing someone you may tell one person or even nobody. However, when you have a bad experience, chances are you will tell every person you run into.

Normally, I would agree with you, however people appear to be scared of complaining about the replica dealers for some reason. :shock:

To be honest, I feel in this hobby, people need to stick together to weed out those that might be dishonest or unfavorable. That is why places like this and the other replica forums offer a great service. The need for people to feel comfortable voicing themselves benefits each and everyone of us.

I feel that if someone posts something bad about a dealer, then it is up to me to find out if it is a deal breaker for any future purchases or if it was an isolated event.

In short, as others here have said, each person must make up their own mind and buy from who they feel comfortable with.

Thanks for listening!

Tom

 

[Niko]

I actually think that there are alot of forum members who post positive reviews of dealers, mainly because they are pleased with their new watch and want to tell the rest of us about it. This is a good thing.

However, no one should be discouraged from posting a negative review. It was their money spent and their right to a satisfactory deal. Negative reviews are very important. They provide other members with a warning or a heads up on a dealers service or maybe the quality of a particular watch.

I hope that all our dealers read these reviews. It maybe that these are the best way to encourage a high and consistent level of service and product.

I believe that keeping your reputation intact at RWI would be a pretty serious incentive for a dealer.

Personally I would like to see the 5 star system reviewed, as it appears to me that there has been enough feedback from members lately about certain dealers and products to justify it.

N.

 

[pugwash]

I actually think that there are alot of forum members who post positive reviews of dealers, mainly because they are pleased with their new watch and want to tell the rest of us about it. This is a good thing.

... and some who do it hoping their dealer will give them a free watch (wo-mart did this, for instance) or preferential treatment of the "give me $10 off and I'll make sure you get a great review" variety.

Reviews are nowhere near as impartial as they should be. Read through some of them and you would think some dealers are godlike, or equally you'll find members roasted alive for suggesting a dealer is less than perfect.

We could do better as a community, to be honest.

 

[Niko]

I actually think that there are alot of forum members who post positive reviews of dealers, mainly because they are pleased with their new watch and want to tell the rest of us about it. This is a good thing.

... and some who do it hoping their dealer will give them a free watch (wo-mart did this, for instance) or preferential treatment of the "give me $10 off and I'll make sure you get a great review" variety.

Reviews are nowhere near as impartial as they should be. Read through some of them and you would think some dealers are godlike, or equally you'll find members roasted alive for suggesting a dealer is less than perfect.

We could do better as a community, to be honest.

Pug, you are right. We do need a better system of review. We rely on our peers to a large extent on this forum, and to think that there has been "pay for reviews" going on is really disheartening. However, I would like to think that this happens infrequently.

The bottom line is that we must all your our own judgement and make our own decisions. Thankfully, we can still rely on some exceptional advice and reviews from some very knowledgeable and experienced members when it comes to the actual watches. Who we each decide to buy from is up to us.

In my opinion, if we have relied on info and advcie at RWI to help us choose a watch/dealer, then we owe a certain duty back to the community to honestly review the watch and transaction.

N.

 

[butterfly]

Best dealers

Guys lets get things in perspective. If you do a search on replica watches you know what you'll find. More dealers that you can count! Many scan sites.

Here at the Dark Side, the best dealers are clearly noted. Sure some are better than others. As someone pointed out, just read the dealer reviews.

However, you won't get totally screwed!! Lets not forget we have the top percentile, the "Good reputable Dealers" at our fingertips. To me this is worth plenty. Trying to narrow down the best five would be interesting, but I for one am pleased to be on the Dark Side. My dealings to date are have been very rewarding.

Regards,
Butterfly

 

[dawg]

We could do better as a community, to be honest.

There's a phrase, can't see the forest for the trees ... nothing wrong with a negative review. But if that review is more about how someone has created a no-win situation and then they are astonished their fantasy is merely ugly reality ... it's far easier for me to take in gushing happy with their purchase reviews.

I have been guilty of creating a false fantasy myself. We enter the rep world with the wrong expectaions in the first place. I thought that a replica was perfect when i first arrived on the rep scene. Meaning, i thought i would find the "Perfect Clone" of a watch i wanted. Well to my dismay i am still looking after all this time. What does that say? It says they simply do not exist! You have to be prepared to love your rep with all its flaws and not expect it to be a perfect clone or you would have the real thing in hand. I also believe that this is exactly what caused all the paypal issues. We had people with a fantasy watch on their mind and when they saw the reality they could not stomache it.


If you come here looking for the perfect rep or clone of a watch you are better off leaving now and going to a ad and buying the gen. I think enzo has made and excelent point and hit the nail on the head.

 

[horologie_unitas]

my opinion....i posted a little review about every deal i made....no matter who it was - or what was bought or sold....watches, used straps, watchcases, everything. I tried to give an objective review about members and dealers ...in the same way.propably...we ( or I am !! ) pissed about certain happenings with certain dealers more, because my expectations are higher....but in my opinion it is somewhat justified if you pay the highest price for a watch...as i always said....i will give everyone a chance to make things that turned out wrong....right again.
If this will happen...i will be very happy....and be so fair and also share this experience as well. easy and fair as that.ok, lets all hope for the best !

 

[Klink]

the people who understand
something\\

do..

those who dont understand
something

dont..

while there is movement between the two groupd

it is not much..

which is why we get suggestions (others) for a color grading system
a point system
an access system

and mine..
a spray paint tie, belt and suspenders system..

the brilliant ones and the dunces are already here..

along with the middle group, who quietly go about their business...

lol

Life is Good!
Klink

FakeBay and PayPoop...
incestuous scammers of a quasi-legal kind..

 

[Arlequin]

5 Star Dealers

My opinion as someone new to the scene.
Everybody does business in the proper way.
That's where the dealer review comes in you, as a purchaser, have some sort of moral obligation to let forum members of your experience. It gives a trusted dealer an opportunity to become a 5* dealer, which is a suble difference.
A 5* dealer is not quite the same as a trusted dealer and you stand a better chance of getting that better sevice when you are in the same country, or when you know at almost every stage where the product you paid up front is, rather than sweating, waiting on the post, wondering where your bucks are!
Although you hope and trust that your "name" trusted Dealer will make it right in the end perhaps you shouldn't be in that position with one that earns the 5* tag despite a purchaser's natural impatience.

 

[smyrnasurfin]

And what purpose are trying to acclomplish with this thread?

I'm fairly new to this and I personally ordered from the so called 5 star rating dealers with mixed results. I have also ordered from other dealers who are not rated with great success. What qualifies as a 5 star dealer? I think it is important to the people who are new to this as to not get turned off by a bad experience.

I concur

 

[Klink]

numbers are nice..

they are not everything, imo

:shock:

 

[Arlequin]

5 Star Dealers

We can't honestly expecct the product to be perfect We can expect the product to be as good as it can be without it being a blueprint. , otherwise it would be a "gen".
It not about just about numbers it's about a good, and comfortable experience getting to the point of arrival of that product, without the worry.

 

[Klink]

all the numbers in the world won't do that..

a percan can.. and we have some good people here

as dealers.. at least they know it is good business to treat

customers right..

 

[horologie_unitas]

i totally agree..nobody expects anything perfect...but a product that is not falling apart when you try to wind it the first time. and when you spend several hundred $...a watch that has not missing screws in the movement...and no stripped screws ....and a watch thats not scratched up and the crystal crooked...
gosh...i am only talking about the most normal things to expect !!
how come every $ 20 chinese watch from walmart with a chinese manual movement looks perfect ?
please dont tell me now....well why dont you buy it there then...NO !- if it is possible there...why not here ?- when you pay 2000 % as much ??
as i said...i am willing to pay $ 50 extra, just to have piece of mind, knowing...hey ...my watch will be wound up and run for a day, and checked if everything is the way it should be....how long does that take ? 15 - 20 min ? I am willing to cough up 50 Dollars for that...instead of having to send it back to China, pay 50$ for trackable EMS shipping....and wait and pray every night...please let it go through customs again !!
50 $ extra....!! to make it right from the beginning on...is that to much asked for ? I dont even want it for free !!
my 3 cents

 

[Klink]

is a good 3 cents too...

of beneifit would be a tour of the replica manufacturing world..

note that the word 'factory' was not used..

lol

sort of a medieval wonderland.. because you would certainly

wonder.. how on earth they can do as good as they do

given the conditions.. the education level (lol)

all for us to spend and gripe, or often even to spend and smile..

 

[Arlequin]

5 Star Dealers

I think you have said exactly what I meant. That's the difference I mean, a 5* dealer, not just a trusted dealer who would get it right afterward. You'd like it to run, not finished poorly etc. etc. yadda yadda yadda........

 

[Klink]

even houdini had a bad day...

:shock: 8)

 

[razafina]

Yep we know

it is a fact that we all have bad days.
It is what we do after the bad day.
Such as If you forget the anniversary, you better make up for it big and fast.
Do you get my drift.
That is the difference from being a five star and the dog house

 

[daytona4me]

Normally, I would agree with you, however people appear to be scared of complaining about the replica dealers for some reason. :shock:

Yes, as they should be. I killed the last member's dog who made a bad review against "MY" dealer.
And if I see anymore of this behavior, I wont stop with the dog! BEWARE!