narikaa said:
Narikaa you forgot the part about you being personable, responsive, and easy to work with!!!!!!! :wink:
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Little White Lies We're Supposed To Tolerate?
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Narikaa you forgot the part about you being personable, responsive, and easy to work with!!!!!!! :wink:
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... adn the part about his being the only dealer not to have had a single complaint over his watches.higgy said:
Quote Pugwash:
Aww, heck, you didn't have to go that far, Pugwash! But since you have, thank you!
Now:
Any changes made that
will meet the legal requirements of truth in advertising
will be a good thing..
The tremendous harm that is being done now cannot continue
maybe a poll to ban sellers who misrepresent?
Whatever helps.
Perhaps someone could also make a list of buyers who have been scammed, and who are
unhappy - like yourself - and have them list specifics: dealer, watch, and the actual problem?
Perhaps a list of dealers who are misrepresenting with specific examples? This could be a thread
controlled by someone who can compile these things - a locked thread perhaps so it does not get
cluttered?
Whatever helps..
While I personally do not have a problem with the way things are currently, I do see value to new members
in some scheme... any scheme at all that would be effective.. esp. considering that only ttk and silix have agreed
to date..
The key would seem to be to apply some power, some method, anything that might be more effective than what has
been accomplished to date.. though it is commendable that at least two dealers out of the fifteen here have agreed
to advertise legally.
Life is Good!
Klink
That's wonderful for you. I'm so glad. Next time anyone complains, I'll tell them it's ok, because Klink has never had any problems. That'll make them realise how they need to stop complaining and just praise Klink.Klink said:
Praise Klink!
Aww, heck, you didn't have to go that far, Pugwash! But since you have, thank you!
Now:
Any changes made that
will meet the legal requirements of truth in advertising
will be a good thing..
The tremendous harm that is being done now cannot continue
maybe a poll to ban sellers who misrepresent?
Whatever helps.
Perhaps someone could also make a list of buyers who have been scammed, and who are
unhappy - like yourself - and have them list specifics: dealer, watch, and the actual problem?
Perhaps a list of dealers who are misrepresenting with specific examples? This could be a thread
controlled by someone who can compile these things - a locked thread perhaps so it does not get
cluttered?
Whatever helps..
While I personally do not have a problem with the way things are currently, I do see value to new members
in some scheme... any scheme at all that would be effective.. esp. considering that only ttk and silix have agreed
to date..
The key would seem to be to apply some power, some method, anything that might be more effective than what has
been accomplished to date.. though it is commendable that at least two dealers out of the fifteen here have agreed
to advertise legally.
Life is Good!
Klink
ABSOLUTELY BANG ON! Totally reliable, and of course ..they're he's mods. My man for Panerai! every time!CISO1969 said:
Just to point this out, at any given time Neil may have 10 watches in his listings. Very easy to keep track of what is what. Josh and Andrew likely have about a thousand watches in their catalogue. They are supplied with images (unlike Neil who does his own pics), and likely have to simply post specs as they are supplied from the dealer. It wouldn't surprise me if they had never even seen half the watches they sell. On top of that, with a large catalogue of goods, it would be very hard to change images to reflect production changes, thats assuming that the manufacturer even bothers to alert them.
IMO, this is just the consequences of dealing with a large dealer as opposed to the smaller guys like Neil. Each dealer has his strong points and weaknesses. As a consumer you should be aware of this. Read reviews, don't be the first to buy a specific model. Follow these simple rules and you will always be sure of what you are receiving.
IMO, this is just the consequences of dealing with a large dealer as opposed to the smaller guys like Neil. Each dealer has his strong points and weaknesses. As a consumer you should be aware of this. Read reviews, don't be the first to buy a specific model. Follow these simple rules and you will always be sure of what you are receiving.
Replica watch manufactures have by no means the goal producing the ultimate....perfect ....as good as possible.....highest grade....replica....by no means. They want to produce as cheap and as shitty as possible....not caring if this thing runs a week or a year.
Their interest is....least effort.....maximum price....maximum business.
they could produce way higher quality....but why should they ?
we all know what we get....and dont get me wrong....there is some really good stuff out there....and i dont feel betrayed.
Ever bought a new car ...being told about its awesome gas mileage.....and then in real life.....yeah right...!!
same deal.
still love those watches !!
just my thoughts !!
Their interest is....least effort.....maximum price....maximum business.
they could produce way higher quality....but why should they ?
we all know what we get....and dont get me wrong....there is some really good stuff out there....and i dont feel betrayed.
Ever bought a new car ...being told about its awesome gas mileage.....and then in real life.....yeah right...!!
same deal.
still love those watches !!
just my thoughts !!
Think about it real hard
If I am in a crooked business to sell you sometihng that is illegal and I am way over in Asia and you are in Small Town, USA, and I really want your $300 and oyu really want to give it to me,...
Dont you think that me being a CROOK in a CROOKED business, I would not have the urge to say just a tiny teenie little white lie in order for you to send me your $300 and I mail you a POS watch?
You think I will feel guilty and will lose sleep over my little white lie?
Think again!!!!
Everything about this rep business is CROOKED..... EVERYTHING! :shock:
joeyz400 said:
If I am in a crooked business to sell you sometihng that is illegal and I am way over in Asia and you are in Small Town, USA, and I really want your $300 and oyu really want to give it to me,...
Dont you think that me being a CROOK in a CROOKED business, I would not have the urge to say just a tiny teenie little white lie in order for you to send me your $300 and I mail you a POS watch?
You think I will feel guilty and will lose sleep over my little white lie?
Think again!!!!
Everything about this rep business is CROOKED..... EVERYTHING! :shock:
Look into my eyes, all replicas are perfect and flawless, you love replicas, spend money on replicas, we're not a scam site, those other sites are scam sites, that watch isn't broken its a custom "feature", didn't you hear? the Swiss moved to China, synthetic sapphire ok, the caseback doesn't need a gasket, that screw is supposed to come loose and jam up the movement, it's perfectly normal to spend 300.00 dollars on a watch have to send it back at your expense and wait two months, our dealers don't lie, they are just confused, Sea-Gull is how we say "Swiss made" in China, of course it real AR coating yes it's supposed to watch off with water, that subdial is supposed to move in fits and spurts like that....
If only my customers was as fat dumb and happy as people are around here!
If only my customers was as fat dumb and happy as people are around here!
OLDECROW You are hilarious! LOL
And right on.
Love you already! :wink:
Funny stuff.
Really, gotta laugh at ourselves:
ponder the whole picture: a bunch of intelligent, well paid attractive and hip men like us exchanging insults or bragging rights about this watch or that watch and really, the reality is:
ALL OVER CHEAP FAKED OUT WANNABE RIP OFF WATCHES!
I really need to get a life.
Like, seriously.
Need to get off the laptop and the watches and make love to the wife, you know, something useful!
:shock:
And right on.
Love you already! :wink:
Funny stuff.
Really, gotta laugh at ourselves:
ponder the whole picture: a bunch of intelligent, well paid attractive and hip men like us exchanging insults or bragging rights about this watch or that watch and really, the reality is:
ALL OVER CHEAP FAKED OUT WANNABE RIP OFF WATCHES!
I really need to get a life.
Like, seriously.
Need to get off the laptop and the watches and make love to the wife, you know, something useful!
:shock:
My Rep purchases, Reviews
There seems to be some antagonizing about giving specifics on problems with watches so I took the time to find links to all the watches I bought early in 2006 before I got tired of talking to a brick wall.
Not all of these reps had problems either.
these links are to TRC
Joshua's Speedmaster
Etaswiss (sean)'s Black Seamaster
Etaswiss (sean) / Eddielee / Joshua (rw), start to finish (FINALY FINISHED)
Omega Aquaterra 2892
Gen3 Planet Ocean from Neil
A Different View Of Andrews 4th Gen Po
Eek! Loose Screw Jammed My Pam!
There seems to be some antagonizing about giving specifics on problems with watches so I took the time to find links to all the watches I bought early in 2006 before I got tired of talking to a brick wall.
Not all of these reps had problems either.
these links are to TRC
Joshua's Speedmaster
Etaswiss (sean)'s Black Seamaster
Etaswiss (sean) / Eddielee / Joshua (rw), start to finish (FINALY FINISHED)
Omega Aquaterra 2892
Gen3 Planet Ocean from Neil
A Different View Of Andrews 4th Gen Po
Eek! Loose Screw Jammed My Pam!
Puzzling to me this is..
Were anyone to actually read previous posts of Pugs and mine concerning the issue of truth in advertising
one would find that I have been and still am in complete agreement with Pugwash, and TTK as regards proper
descriptions.. and more so later on in the thread when I understood that PW has only the best interest of the forums
in his heart.
Why did I become upset? It was a reaction to what I saw as a good intentioned chap who was raising a very large
hue and cry, and shouting FIRE! FIRE! - yet who flippantly, to my eyes, refused to point to the fire.. If he is correct
in the assertions, it makes zero sense to me for him to not name that which he knows.. and to be specific rather than
stirring the shite, and raking the muck.. making a bad smell when it is in his power to be precise, and point directly
to the sins he is crying about..
My support of Pugwash began as I realized the while old forum hand likely know all of the little details, and not be
at all concerned, perhaps newer members could benefit from his efforts.
Oh well, I am still puzzled.. and I still do agree with his basic premise, and I do support his efforts, even if he now refuses
to be of any real assistance in this matter.. other than his continual ranting and raving..
Pugwash was not asked to leave, and any insult he felt, imo, was simply the product of his refusal to actually be of help.
Life is Good!
Klink
"Well, I tried. I'll be back here after I've let off some steam. Thanks, Klink. You can crush the fun out of even enjoyable places like forums. Your pettiness knows no bounds.".... Pugwash!
Were anyone to actually read previous posts of Pugs and mine concerning the issue of truth in advertising
one would find that I have been and still am in complete agreement with Pugwash, and TTK as regards proper
descriptions.. and more so later on in the thread when I understood that PW has only the best interest of the forums
in his heart.
Why did I become upset? It was a reaction to what I saw as a good intentioned chap who was raising a very large
hue and cry, and shouting FIRE! FIRE! - yet who flippantly, to my eyes, refused to point to the fire.. If he is correct
in the assertions, it makes zero sense to me for him to not name that which he knows.. and to be specific rather than
stirring the shite, and raking the muck.. making a bad smell when it is in his power to be precise, and point directly
to the sins he is crying about..
My support of Pugwash began as I realized the while old forum hand likely know all of the little details, and not be
at all concerned, perhaps newer members could benefit from his efforts.
Oh well, I am still puzzled.. and I still do agree with his basic premise, and I do support his efforts, even if he now refuses
to be of any real assistance in this matter.. other than his continual ranting and raving..
Pugwash was not asked to leave, and any insult he felt, imo, was simply the product of his refusal to actually be of help.
Life is Good!
Klink
"Well, I tried. I'll be back here after I've let off some steam. Thanks, Klink. You can crush the fun out of even enjoyable places like forums. Your pettiness knows no bounds.".... Pugwash!
Everyone should participate in calling out dealers on false advertisments... Actually PW did name Josh and andrew... also he said what bothers him.. Lemaniavs Venus etc...!
I understand that he doesnt want to have this "job"... but im sure he would help a lot if everyone would particape
I understand that he doesnt want to have this "job"... but im sure he would help a lot if everyone would particape
someone participate
someone call out where
someone have big time real time problem
look in dealer revier - where all complaint..
guess most peeples just stupid
call for education and then call rep police!
we get to bottom and then we have our guy
get edge of cutting to know what is really really real!
someone call out where
someone have big time real time problem
look in dealer revier - where all complaint..
guess most peeples just stupid
call for education and then call rep police!
we get to bottom and then we have our guy
get edge of cutting to know what is really really real!
lol
is good of jokey
from mouth
of no agenda dude
lol ok hah hah ho ho
big ho of agen da imo can see
ez what is happen...
:roll:
is good of jokey
from mouth
of no agenda dude
lol ok hah hah ho ho
big ho of agen da imo can see
ez what is happen...
:roll:
well what are you doing... complaining about other people who do nothing LOL and talking rubbish all day
rubbis yes,
an beats bool of sheeite every day all day long...
person with agenda is agenda freako all over lot
is good to follow?
lol
chase dog cat fighting misses what is going on around..
but if u want make complain make complain
really simple..
asian venus big hot topic on oprah!
:shock:
al 'fellow travelers' should do big tit boycott
thas the answer! do pet ition of teacup
and follow peoples who have not found answer...
look at all bit deal damage is done by venus (or lemania) thingy..
watches wont work, turn in to turnips on wrisssssss
an where is complains of peoples?
defend the indefensible or buy only organic lolly pops!
an beats bool of sheeite every day all day long...
person with agenda is agenda freako all over lot
is good to follow?
lol
chase dog cat fighting misses what is going on around..
but if u want make complain make complain
really simple..
asian venus big hot topic on oprah!
:shock:
al 'fellow travelers' should do big tit boycott
thas the answer! do pet ition of teacup
and follow peoples who have not found answer...
look at all bit deal damage is done by venus (or lemania) thingy..
watches wont work, turn in to turnips on wrisssssss
an where is complains of peoples?
defend the indefensible or buy only organic lolly pops!
i can't even understand half of your posts as i'm not native speaker in english... but if all what you do is making jokes and writing as if you were drunk... fine.. be that way lol
Plain writing
u guys need to get together and do a group buy
from Wal-Mart..
get guarantee, warantee, and return product because
your knickers are in a twist with life..
lol
best u choose your dealer and watch when u are drunk...
that way you have excuse for stoopid..
u guys need to get together and do a group buy
from Wal-Mart..
get guarantee, warantee, and return product because
your knickers are in a twist with life..
lol
best u choose your dealer and watch when u are drunk...
that way you have excuse for stoopid..