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[aflop]

WTF??? That´s crazy... This one dosen't have the V8 but it's the same year but it's 65k.

You're based in Norway? If that's the case then I'll bow out of the fight. Too expensive there!

 

[C Master]

Entry level dude.
But don't take my word for it:
Here's a second hand (almost a year old) Land Cruiser (not invincible, nor maxed out) for sale - obviously some small bargaining possible but not by much. FX rates are about $USD1:$SGD1.43 at the moment.

Still almost USD$185k





A $6,500 franken? Pfft chump change to my friend who used to drive a Maserati. LOL! @legend

The equivalent car is €109,000 here (just under $120k). €2,200 road tax (€333 if you tax it as a non passenger vehicle). So yes I think I will stay here. lol

2015 (151) TOYOTA LANDCRUISER V8 4.5 D4D BUSINESS EDITION 5 SEATER COMMERCIAL==€90, 000 NET OF VAT==

€109,000​

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Lol @aflop that massy was an embarrassment.. all show but no go.
I am now driving something that has all the go but very little show, and its the way I like it.
Your ride, on the other hand, is part of the Singapore success story.

I like the way you are thinking. There is a lot more going on under the bonnet of mine than the semi-humble badges and understated looks indicate. It also takes 3 kids in the back, with utmost safety, which is my prime concern.

Move to the good old USA, I bought a 2013 Durango R/T AWD new in 2013 prior to that I had a 2000 Durango SRT? 4X4 and I think this years registration on the 2013 was like $335.00 , My wifes cousins were over from France last summer and couldnt believe all the big SUVs and nice cars in general... My answer.. Its Southern California its a Car Culture. But really You guys in Europe and I guess elsewhere are getting screwed. I remember when my Wife and I were first married I was looking at a Jaguar in Paris that was $20,000 more than the same exact model in Southern California.... Its cheaper to get the car to Paris than to Los Angeles, Maybe the VAT was already added but still it was a $40,000 car for $60,000 give me a break F ing government rip off.

I was over at a wedding in SF, I was collecting vintage SLs at the time. Got talking to a German guy living there (he was my friend's sister's boyfriend). He collected SLs too. So he let me borrow one of his for the week. I have to say driving around California in an open top is like a dream come true. I will never forget it. Ireland is a car culture too, mainly because it has sub standard unreliable public transport and a lot of us choose to live in Rural areas. We are heavily peanlised for driving though. You are right the Gov. taxes screw us, plus not one penny of our road taxes are spent on roads.

 

[legend]

Wow with all these cars, we definitely need a large garage to house them all!
Do you happen to know any reliable builder around? Maybe one who has the experience constructing and operating his own building or two? :shuffle:

The equivalent car is €109,000 here (just under $120k). €2,200 road tax (€333 if you tax it as a non passenger vehicle). So yes I think I will stay here. lol

2015 (151) TOYOTA LANDCRUISER V8 4.5 D4D BUSINESS EDITION 5 SEATER COMMERCIAL==€90, 000 NET OF VAT==

€109,000​

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MakeTOYOTAModelLANDCRUISERPrice€109,000Engine4.5 DieselBody TypeSUVTransmissionAutomaticYear2015 (151)ColourSilverMileage100 m (161 km)Owners Doors LocationGalwayNCT Expiry Additional Info​

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I like the way you are thinking. There is a lot more going on under the bonnet of mine than the semi-humble badges and understated looks indicate. It also takes 3 kids in the back, with utmost safety, which is my prime concern.



I was over at a wedding in SF, I was collecting vintage SLs at the time. Got talking to a German guy living there (he was my friend's sister's boyfriend). He collected SLs too. So he let me borrow one of his for the week. I have to say driving around California in an open top is like a dream come true. I will never forget it. Ireland is a car culture too, mainly because it has sub standard unreliable public transport and a lot of us choose to live in Rural areas. We are heavily peanlised for driving though. You are right the Gov. taxes screw us, plus not one penny of our road taxes are spent on roads.

 

[C Master]

Wow with all these cars, we definitely need a large garage to house them all!
Do you happen to know any reliable builder around? Maybe one who has the experience constructing and operating his own building or two? :shuffle:

LMAO

 

[joe_chill]

Wow with all these cars, we definitely need a large garage to house them all!
Do you happen to know any reliable builder around? Maybe one who has the experience constructing and operating his own building or two? :shuffle:

:hehehe:

 

[whatdoumacallit]

I was over at a wedding in SF, I was collecting vintage SLs at the time. Got talking to a German guy living there (he was my friend's sister's boyfriend). He collected SLs too. So he let me borrow one of his for the week. I have to say driving around California in an open top is like a dream come true. I will never forget it. Ireland is a car culture too, mainly because it has sub standard unreliable public transport and a lot of us choose to live in Rural areas. We are heavily peanlised for driving though. You are right the Gov. taxes screw us, plus not one penny of our road taxes are spent on roads.

You're misunderstanding why youre being taxed! The reason tax rates are so high is because of externalities you are imposing on other people by your driving eg. air and noise pollution, road congestion etc... The reason tax rates are so high is to reflect the cost you are imposing on society back on you i.e. to make the private cost to you = the social cost of you driving. The extra revenue is just an added bonus for the govt! Same goes for smoking, drinking, air travel...

 

[joe_chill]

You're based in Norway? If that's the case then I'll bow out of the fight. Too expensive there!

No buddy, Sweden. Norway is crazy expensive!

Here's Norway compared to the US. The norwegian Toyota is the older version and has a 2.8L diesel while the US has a 5.7 V8. The difference 31k.

 

[C Master]

You're misunderstanding why youre being taxed! The reason tax rates are so high is because of externalities you are imposing on other people by your driving eg. air and noise pollution, road congestion etc... The reason tax rates are so high is to reflect the cost you are imposing on society back on you i.e. to make the private cost to you = the social cost of you driving. The extra revenue is just an added bonus for the govt! Same goes for smoking, drinking, air travel...

Good point. You mean all the good things get taxed Alcohol here, although heavily taxed, is not taxed enough in my humble opinion as it does more social harm than anything else.

However the car I just posted above although I cannot see it available in the UK, I would estimate costs around £60k (€80k ish) in the UK, based on comparing other similarly priced cars. Just highlighting we pay more for road usage here than in the UK (and certainly less than the US) with less or inadequate public transport alternatives.

I feel weird using this thread as a general rant about motoring lol. How did it get here?

 

[chris3007]

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[joe_chill]

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LOL yeah, we are off topic allright =)

 

[C Master]

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Thanks Chris lol

 

[whatdoumacallit]

Good point. You mean all the good things get taxed Alcohol here, although heavily taxed, is not taxed enough in my humble opinion as it does more social harm than anything else.

However the car I just posted above although I cannot see it available in the UK, I would estimate costs around £60k (€80k ish) in the UK, based on comparing other similarly priced cars. Just highlighting we pay more for road usage here than in the UK (and certainly less than the US) with less or inadequate public transport alternatives.

I feel weird using this thread as a general rant about motoring lol. How did it get here?

Yeah basically! I personally believe smoking should be taxed into oblivion along with vaping and everything related... but I cant agree with alcohol taxes. As a student, increasing those would seriously reduce my quality of life

Yeah you make a good point, the reason I posted was because of your comment that tax revenues from cars isn't spent on roads! It is interesting how motoring costs vary by country... the same can be said for watches too!

 

[C Master]

Yeah basically! I personally believe smoking should be taxed into oblivion along with vaping and everything related... but I cant agree with alcohol taxes. As a student, increasing those would seriously reduce my quality of life

Yeah you make a good point, the reason I posted was because of your comment that tax revenues from cars isn't spent on roads! It is interesting how motoring costs vary by country... the same can be said for watches too!

Of course there should be a student exemption to alcohol taxes

 

[whatdoumacallit]

Of course there should be a student exemption to alcohol taxes

Yllekp for prime minister!


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[C Master]

Yllekp for prime minister!


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LMAO

 

[trailboss99]

Mr Pimilco doesn't look to have much to say does he?

 

[Raddave]

Mr Pimilco doesn't look to have much to say does he?

 

[T3RM1N4T0R]

How did this post end up here? Damn tapatalk! Can some kind mod help me delete this please?

just seeing this. post deleted for you

 

[aflop]

just seeing this. post deleted for you

Thanks bro! Cross wires between two threads!

 

[Thrasher]

Government Elites / Super rich trying to impose there will on the people because we cant decide whats right. They want to control and contain us. Its time for a Revolution!

FYI: I'm a huge Joey Dunlop fan.. I even have one of his Arai limited edition helmets in a case from the Visor shop!