Legit check on gen crystal and gen INSERT

[PencitHej]

Yeah 500 euro is $537 US vs $570 US for brand new. So assuming it IS a tc and it's in good shape otherwise with all the latest tc parts $500 euro is probably fair. But you won't know this without opening the caseback, testing the timekeeping, the crown function, the bezel action.

The bezel/insert(?) is very hard to move around, but it moves the right way only. but it's pretty hard to do.

It keeps time pretty good, gains around 2 seconds every 24 hour (synchronized with computer and waited).

What do you mean with crown function? something i can do?
Album of watch: http://imgur.com/a/IusU5

 

[Maron]

The bezel/insert(?) is very hard to move around, but it moves the right way only. but it's pretty hard to do.

It keeps time pretty good, gains around 2 seconds every 24 hour (synchronized with computer and waited).

What do you mean with crown function? something i can do?
Album of watch: http://imgur.com/a/IusU5

I just mean unscrewing and screwing back in smooth. Handwinding in 2nd position, date setting in third position, proper time setting with hacking in 4th position

 

[PencitHej]

yes, u unscrew (goes smooth pretty smooth), then you can wind it (weird noise doing so), then date settings and then time.

 

[thehorse]

I would recommend a full refund paid to u first and then return the watch. This isn't a $50 watch we are talking about and it isn't good value even if you got back 300 euro. It just makes it fair assuming it's a real TC

 

[gbxx]

The bezel/insert(?) is very hard to move around, but it moves the right way only. but it's pretty hard to do.

It keeps time pretty good, gains around 2 seconds every 24 hour (synchronized with computer and waited).

What do you mean with crown function? something i can do?
Album of watch: http://imgur.com/a/IusU5

The bezel ring is bent....

Did you reach a conclusion with your seller?

 

[Maron]

The bezel ring is bent....

Did you reach a conclusion with your seller?

Educate me please. How do you know the bezel ring is bent?

 

[gbxx]

Educate me please. How do you know the bezel ring is bent?

Well, I don't know it is. I'm assuming the guy removed it at least more than once to swap bezel inserts. Removing it with a case knife is something I've found creates some issues with how "true" the ring is. When TC installs it from a factory fresh bezel, I'll assume it's 'true'. True in the sense of a bicycle wheel true, where there's no potato chip factor (wobble) at all. It's 100 percent flat and true.

You pry it up to swap the bezel, and you do it with a swift motion with a case knife against a single lug. Is the ring still true? Or does it have an ever-so-slight bend? Do it again, does it have a slight bend? And a third time.... this time it's not a quick snap up and it gets caught on something... you can see it half on/half off the crystal ring... by this time, the bezel washer is shot, the bezel ring is bent. you reinstall it and when you turn the bezel, it requires different amounts of pressure throughout the 360 degree rotation (alternating between less and more effort during the rotation).

The rolex tool to remove the bezel has a 4 jaw blade. I've posted about this before. It comes in on each of the 4 lugs, and scoops underneath the bezel ring and pries it up with even pressure all around. I presume that if Rolex didn't think there was an issue using a case knife, they wouldn't have this tool for the job.

I speak from experience....

 

[Dusk]

To me it looks like he did send you a TC at least!

 

[PencitHej]

Well he isen't answering me anymore...

Can't the bezel ring be fixed somehow? if he sends the new insert thing??

 

[Thrasher]

WOW this sucks another name to add to my list. I think I will only buy from the old timers with years in here.

 

[d4m.test]

Well he isen't answering me anymore...

Can't the bezel ring be fixed somehow? if he sends the new insert thing??

Hi, the watch in the Imgur pics looks like a TC and it´s got the high cannon pinion so You should assume the movement is also TC.
About the bezel ring, imho it just needs to be turned (assuming it´s not bent) and used. You can put at glove on and keep turning it while watching the news and it should improve a lot. If it has never been properly used, washing with lukewarm water using a soft/old toothbrush all around and turning it under slowly running water will wash away junk and dirt. I´d start by washing it and than watch the news.

 

[gbxx]

Hi, the watch in the Imgur pics looks like a TC and it´s got the high cannon pinion so You should assume the movement is also TC.
About the bezel ring, imho it just needs to be turned (assuming it´s not bent) and used. You can put at glove on and keep turning it while watching the news and it should improve a lot. If it has never been properly used, washing with lukewarm water using a soft/old toothbrush all around and turning it under slowly running water will wash away junk and dirt. I´d start by washing it and than watch the news.

I think even if it's bent it can still be "worked" out into smooth turning bezel.

I'd be nervous to wash it without testing for water resistance first. When I changed my own crystal, I had a micro-leak...

 

[gbxx]

TC sent me, for free, three bezel assemblies..... I think he read my struggles on bending the rings online and helped a brother out...

I'll pass one of these bezel assembles to the OP in Denmark and cover the postage cost. Are there any forum modders that can help in or near Denmark (or safe countries to ship to)?

Maybe if the OP can source a gen insert and xtal, and use one of my bezel assembles. We can, as a community, help right this wrong.

 

[Maron]

TC sent me, for free, three bezel assemblies..... I think he read my struggles on bending the rings online and helped a brother out...

I'll pass one of these bezel assembles to the OP in Denmark and cover the postage cost. Are there any forum modders that can help in or near Denmark (or safe countries to ship to)?

Maybe if the OP can source a gen insert and xtal, and use one of my bezel assembles. We can, as a community, help right this wrong.

love it

 

[PencitHej]

Really appreciate the help!!

To update all of you:
Seller still has not answered me and has been onlien atleast 2 times since my last sent message.
With the help of moderator, i have sent a email to the paypal mail he gave me.

Lets hope he answers..!

If possible, i'd love to get the gen parts as a first priorty. As i have no clue where to look for the gen pieces and/or whats fair price.

Regards

 

[gbxx]

Really appreciate the help!!

To update all of you:
Seller still has not answered me and has been onlien atleast 2 times since my last sent message.
With the help of moderator, i have sent a email to the paypal mail he gave me.

Lets hope he answers..!

If possible, i'd love to get the gen parts as a first priorty. As i have no clue where to look for the gen pieces and/or whats fair price.

Regards

Which gen parts do you want? I'm assuming you want the crystal and the insert?

You can often find the inserts for sale here in the "Parts" section of the forum. TRF (Rolex Forums) also has a parts section that is incredibly helpful. I've always paid handsome prices for brand new in blister pack parts from there. I always like starting with a brand new part personally... but you can also find used parts.

Do you want an AR crystal (anti-reflective coated cyclops) or the non-AR crystal? Some say it's more period-correct to have non-AR crystals on the TC sub, but I prefer the AR look on the cyclops personally.

Both parts are available here in the forums and on TRF. Do you have a trusted resource to work on your watch for you or do you need to find a watchsmith near you?

 

[PencitHej]

Which gen parts do you want? I'm assuming you want the crystal and the insert?

You can often find the inserts for sale here in the "Parts" section of the forum. TRF (Rolex Forums) also has a parts section that is incredibly helpful. I've always paid handsome prices for brand new in blister pack parts from there. I always like starting with a brand new part personally... but you can also find used parts.

Do you want an AR crystal (anti-reflective coated cyclops) or the non-AR crystal? Some say it's more period-correct to have non-AR crystals on the TC sub, but I prefer the AR look on the cyclops personally.

Both parts are available here in the forums and on TRF. Do you have a trusted resource to work on your watch for you or do you need to find a watchsmith near you?

He just answered me saying that he will paypal me the difference between the gen parts and the TC. What is a fair price? 300€?

As far as i know the watch i have know is has AR coating, right? i think it's fine, i dont mind really.

And as im completey new, i don't know any modders in Europe(or Denmark, if there is any) that i know are trustable - and unless it's easy to change the insert, i would rather let a pro do it!

 

[gbxx]

He just answered me saying that he will paypal me the difference between the gen parts and the TC. What is a fair price? 300€?

A stock TC, what you have, is $575 brand new from TC. That in Euro translates to 533.10

Take your payment amount, subtract 533.10.

Then move on... Take the refund while you can.

 

[crazytime]

Bad bad story......these people do make ugly figures to all honest Italians.

 

[gbxx]

Bad bad story......these people do make ugly figures to all honest Italians.

I thought, in Italy, you'd be shot dead for wearing a replica.... Being the fashion capital of the world and all.