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Which strap for IWC 5007 ardoise??

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Even though it still is true that the strap makes the watch, the strap should not try to outshine it. Therefore I'd always prefer the OEM anyway - or any aftermarket strap coming close to it.
Whoever prefers Santoni is of course entitled to do so.
 

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this is what i am getting .
 

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@Variatio: I have them BOTH. They are worth the money. You don't know what you are talking about, sorry.
[MENTION=37581]switi[/MENTION]: does it fit to the holes? I mean: how big is the gap between strap and case? Can you please post some pictures because this is a very interesting fact for some users here (me included :) )
 

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@Variatio: I have them BOTH. They are worth the money. You don't know what you are talking about, sorry.

LOL I know exaxtly what I am talking about. Why do you think the exact same Kaufmann strap (provided you know that Kaufmann is the manufacturer of the IWC strap) has a significant higher price only because of the IWC logo on it? And that's why it is not worth the money - except, of course, you consider the logo print being of any significant worth. But, quite frankly, I dare to doubt that.
 

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LOL I know exaxtly what I am talking about. Why do you think the exact same Kaufmann strap (provided you know that Kaufmann is the manufacturer of the IWC strap) has a significant higher price only because of the IWC logo on it? And that's why it is not worth the money - except, of course, you consider the logo print being of any significant worth. But, quite frankly, I dare to doubt that.

Trouble is it is the IWC logo that sets it apart whether you agree or not and that is what adds to the perceived value. Why else do we buy replica watches of these brands and discuss every little detail to compare it to the genuine.
I wonder how many would be as interested in a version of the 3777, LPP, 3714, 5001 etc, etc without the IWC trademark on the dial?
 

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Trouble is it is the IWC logo that sets it apart whether you agree or not and that is what adds to the perceived value. Why else do we buy replica watches of these brands and discuss every little detail to compare it to the genuine.
I wonder how many would be as interested in a version of the 3777, LPP, 3714, 5001 etc, etc without the IWC trademark on the dial?

You are aware that we are talking about a strap, don't you?
 

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You are aware that we are talking about a strap, don't you?

Of course, the comment is regarding the worth of the IWC logo. Your comment was that you see no value in having the logo on an apparently near identical product. Therefore my statement was 'would there be as much interest in a watch that did not have the logo that was otherwise nearly the same as a genuine IWC but around 25% less cost?' Whether it is a strap or the watch head the same remains true.
It is the brand name that adds value whether you agree or not.
 

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Waiting for the pics Switi :balloon: Really great and interesting strap color choise imho.
 

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this is what i am getting .

The curved strap is going to leave a larger gap compared to the straight strap. The 5007 does have a curved strap as per gen, but the lug holes are much closer to the case. It will be interesting to see the pictures when it arrives.
 

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strap for 5001

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strap for 5007 using curved spring bars

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strap for 5007 using straight spring bar

now your choice...
 

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Of course, the comment is regarding the worth of the IWC logo. Your comment was that you see no value in having the logo on an apparently near identical product. Therefore my statement was 'would there be as much interest in a watch that did not have the logo that was otherwise nearly the same as a genuine IWC but around 25% less cost?' Whether it is a strap or the watch head the same remains true.
It is the brand name that adds value whether you agree or not.

Of course I do not agree, that's comparing apples to oranges. Would it be the watch without the IWC Logo, you would neither have a gen nor a rep but simply an hommage. The strap OTOH is not only nearly identical, it is the exact same strap from the orignal manufacturer, and since the logo is on the inside anyway nobody ever will notice that. So no, the logo on the inside of the strap does not add any value at all. Except, of course, it would make you feel better, then you are clearly entitled to pay whatever surcharge makes you feel good.
 

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Trouble is it is the IWC logo that sets it apart whether you agree or not and that is what adds to the perceived value. Why else do we buy replica watches of these brands and discuss every little detail to compare it to the genuine.
I wonder how many would be as interested in a version of the 3777, LPP, 3714, 5001 etc, etc without the IWC trademark on the dial?

I think more people would be interested in it, as it would be considered an homage rather than a replica. If you look at the affordable a forum on watchuseek, you can see giant threads on specific homages with multiple parts and thousands of posts... It may not attract the same type of people as this forum though.


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Of course I do not agree, that's comparing apples to oranges. Would it be the watch without the IWC Logo, you would neither have a gen nor a rep but simply an hommage. The strap OTOH is not only nearly identical, it is the exact same strap from the orignal manufacturer, and since the logo is on the inside anyway nobody ever will notice that. So no, the logo on the inside of the strap does not add any value at all. Except, of course, it would make you feel better, then you are clearly entitled to pay whatever surcharge makes you feel good.


I would never expect you to agree with me!

At the end of the day it all about the brand and the brand adds value.
There is a reason why Luxury brands spend millions in marketing, promotion and sponsorship.

Whether you want to pay premium for having that brand, visible or not, is entirely up to the individual.

I would guess that the brand does actually mean something or why would we all be buying replicas of high end brand watches and not hommages? OK, so on a hommage the lack of the brand is visible but in essence the argument stands.

If there was a choice of the ZF 5001 V2 with the faux plates or a ZF 5001 V3 with faux plates but lacking any IWC logos or engravings on them at a 10% lower cost which one will sell the most?

I expect we will agree to disagree!
 

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20160108_191934_1.jpg

strap for 5001

20160108_191026_1.jpg

strap for 5007 using curved spring bars

20160108_192000_1.jpg

strap for 5007 using straight spring bar

now your choice...

Do you have a picture og the whole watch to see it in perspective


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