thanks for the replies guys!
I've been told that startime makes a replacement band that is nice. It is without engravings, but with a TC clasp should be an option.
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That's a pretty decent option. The bracelet on the Josh 5513 was pretty nice, but a pin on the clasp came apart. I took the links and installed a worn gen clasp and the 593 end pieces and installed it on my 16800- looks better than the stretched out previous bracelet- maybe I'll get a TC clasp next. I refuse to pay $1000 for a new 93150 from Rolex !