This isn't an isolated incident, it's a perfect example of behind the curtain there.
Before I decided to go the long road myself and have inserts made, I inquired with them about purchasing them. My nice, polite inquiry was met with
"If you want to buy these it will be 20 a piece with 1000 units minimum. "
So, sure I could have them. For $20,000... minimum.
I said I must have struck a nerve, $20,000 minimum? And more typical shit attitude-
"We manufacture them. You didn't invest any time or money in R&D. What do you actually think you could purchase them for?"
So, here we are, APBands. I have probably invested more time and money in R&D then you now. On top of my completely handmade straps, i'm working with a huge strap manufacturer to have some high end machine made straps made w/ my inserts. This is all almost a year in the making so far.
As per Luthier who literally knows the factory that makes them, AP Bands straps are not made in Italy, they are made in China. I guess the 100000% honest business man doesn't count false advertising.
Oh, and those turned edges are going to crack sooner rather than later, so the straps are shitty investments. This is why genuine AP uses painted edges, you can repair it almost endlessly.