"Swiss" ETA / Asian Superclones / Asian Clones - What's the best choice?

[neos]

Would you know which asian movement would have the minimal rotor noise? or would I have to purchase swiss movement to be free of this issue. Thank you

 

[occb2]

I am wearing a clone rolex submariner with a 2836 and i hear the rotor of I really listen. Are you hearing it while its on your wrist? You shouldn't hear it while wearing it.

 

[occb2]

The Asian DJ2813 is good. I put it in a black PVC sub that was laying around. It is solid and does beat 28,800 like the eta and the eta clones. It is reasonably priced. I think they cost $40 dollars. Not bad IMO.

 

[KBH]

Only problem is there is no such thing as a DG2813 that beats at 28.8. They beat at 21.6.

 

[occb2]

Call it what you want. They call it high beat DG2813 or 4813. It beats 28,800 I have one and some say it is smoother than the 2824 and 2836. Don't kill the messenger. I like my swiss movements .

 

[sloeber]

I also have a 4813 on my Omege Planet Ocean, runs real smooth.
Did not now this was a high beat 2813.
How do they achieve that ?

 

[KBH]

DG2813 and DG4813 implies a movement that was made by Dixmont Guanzhou, hence the DG in the movement name. To call this new mystery hi-beat movement that they are selling as a DG movement is just wrong unless it actually looks like this.

The DG 4813 is a very decent hi-beat movement and it's second hand movement is visually indistinguishable from the ETA/clones. And it's definitely not a hi-beat DG2813.

 

[occb2]

Yep that is them. I brought two on eBay for 38 dollars each. Worked like a charm. Only problem was finding hands for them. I found a guy on eBay in Indonesia that had them and it took for ever but got them. I can tell you that it ran at 28,800. I was told it was a high beat 2813

 

[KBH]

I can understand the confusion of mistakenly calling the 4813 a hi-beat 2813 since most people are far more used to the 2813 but they are nothing the same as far as construction.


And they no longer come from the factory with tall cannon pin sets so unfortunately when people buy them for Rolex reps, they find that they won't work.

 

[otura7]

I only had problems with hi beat asian movements. Never had to repair a 21j watch. I don't know if it was only bad luck.

 

[beautifuldeath]

Do any watchmakers use graphite components or anything considered self lubricated?

 

[achapgase]

My TC V6 stopped working after 3 month and it's swiss clone so I actually prefer genuine ETA

 

[Jewelerman70]

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[noobwatch]

actually brand new Swiss ETA 2836 movement is still available in CHINA
but cost of Swiss ETA 2836 movement is high
about 1000rmb=160usd higher than Asian 2836 movement

Swiss ETA 2836 almost same as Swiss Sellita Sw200 movement
then Asian 2836/2834
then the Asian 3135 3187 3186 3131

 

[noobwatch]

there is a defect rate of all movement

I got a GENUINE swiss ETA 2836 (brand new) and it broken after 2 weeks

got it service in noob factory and it broken again after 3 weeks

have to change another swiss movt in the end

 

[Rolex5513]

I would go with a Swiss ETA tbh.

 

[Bentleylover]

Which movement are on the AP ROO by Jf. Are there diffrent movement option on ap roo by JF ?

 

[jamesdeba]

very very nice thread, but now i`m confuse with all this movement, i choose my sub this one ; http://www.ts-station.co/13887-ro13887.html
but please help me to make the good choice cose they propose 2 movement the ``Swiss or the Asian`` no matter for the 150$ more or less, i just want a good rep with the good movement (like everybody...)
thank you by advance

 

[AAH1483]

I myself is not good at choosing good movements when buying reps but us noobs who are just starting and new to buying is the reason we ask a lot of questions about the reps we want to buy. Please be in mind even though we are sent or asked if we read the stickys a lot of the info is still not in depth info and hard to understand thus making are first purchase a bad one to some. So to all noobs reading this if you can open your cashback's and familiarize yourself with the movement to know what your getting. Im still learning or at least trying to.

 

[egroegart]

stick with the Asian clones. they function exactly the same as the swiss movements and are proven reliable. just as reliable as the swiss movements. and the swiss movements mostly in reps are refurbished or a mish mash of swiss and Asian parts anyway that are not well done or not oiled correctly or dirty. I've had two so called swiss movements in reps here the last couple of years and they were both a mix of swiss and Asian parts and one was dirty. and not oiled correctly. so I recommend along with a lot of people to just stick with the Asian movements. If for some reason you really want a swiss movement then source it from a reputable place and then install it in your watch or have someone install it.