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Request: Speedmaster Mark II replication - Gauging interest

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The Puretime watch has a 7750 with the working 30 minute totaliser at 3, but DW doesn't appear sunken, is this just the angle. This would be a problem with the new one with a 7750, if 30 second tot was working and DW at 6 wouldn't it guys, unless the gearing was removed?


That's exactly what I'm talking about. It was issue with old Speedmasters but shouldn't be with this one. I don't know much about it's movement either but just compare pictures below and you'll see it has potential.


This is the old Speedy where it's impossible to make good copy of it with 7750 because of the subdial spacing (although gen is handwinding but just for the comparison)


Left one is new Mark II, right one is 1969 Mark II. You can clearly see right one has the same impossible-to-rep subdial spacing but left one has the same spacing as all chrono watches we see in our rep market all of which are using 7750/7753 movements.

Just for the comparison, here is a rep Speedy with 7750 (not good one but shows what I want to point out):



I hope my observations are correct and that this watch has it's future in rep world. Fingers crossed! ;)
 

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The Puretime watch has a 7750 with the working 30 minute totaliser at 3, but DW doesn't appear sunken, is this just the angle. This would be a problem with the new one with a 7750, if 30 second tot was working and DW at 6 wouldn't it guys, unless the gearing was removed?

Sorry bud, I didn't really understand what you are trying to say. For the DW, this one should use 7753 movement as it has quick date change pusher @10 and at 7753 datewheel isn't sunken like on 7750 (good examples of the same watch replication with different movements (7750/7753) are PAM 187 and Montblanc Timewalker Chrono so check differences in their DW's.
As for the position of DW, if I understood correctly, you are saying function of the subdial @6 should be removed in order we could have date on this position? I don't think so as if you look at the pic from Puretime and compare it with gen pic above, you can see date window is part of the subdial and they would both be in the same position. ;)
 

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Sorry bud, I didn't really understand what you are trying to say. For the DW, this one should use 7753 movement as it has quick date change pusher @10 and at 7753 datewheel isn't sunken like on 7750 (good examples of the same watch replication with different movements (7750/7753) are PAM 187 and Montblanc Timewalker Chrono so check differences in their DW's.
As for the position of DW, if I understood correctly, you are saying function of the subdial @6 should be removed in order we could have date on this position? I don't think so as if you look at the pic from Puretime and compare it with gen pic above, you can see date window is part of the subdial and they would both be in the same position. ;)

Hi Mate, yes agree that if they use a 7753 with the pusher then DW should be fine and i'm not saying the function of the sub at 6 should be removed . My comment was really aimed at the Speedy picture from Puretime which shows a 7750 movt with the 30 minute counter in the 3 o clock position and what appears to be a non-sunken DW. As I'm sure you will know the standard config for a 7750 is 6,9,12 with the thirty minute counter at 12 and to move it to the 3 o clock position requires a transfer plate and gearing which lie over the DW and causes the sunken position at 4.30 or 6 (the biggest niggle with the Navis). So I guess I'm saying two things, to rep the new Mk 2 without the sunken DW, they'll need to use a 7753, or a 7750 with a faux 30 minute counter at 3 and secondly, if the DW on that Puretime Speedy is not sunken, how have they achieved that with a 7750 movt, when they can't do that for the Moonwalker, Navi etc.:(
 

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Oh I understand now, sorry. ;) This could be a problem but I'm sure if they ever decide to rep it, they'll use 7753 in order to properly replicate the quick date change which gen has.
 

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Hell yes! Let's inject some oversize 70's retro goodness into the Omega party! The case is very crude so should be a doddle to manufacture, therefore they can spend more time getting the dial accuracy spot on.
 

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Oh I understand now, sorry. ;) This could be a problem but I'm sure if they ever decide to rep it, they'll use 7753 in order to properly replicate the quick date change which gen has.

And I didn't realise the Gen had a 7753 :courage: so as you say shouldn't be a problem mate, hopefully!! I'm in for one.
 

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And I didn't realise the Gen had a 7753 :courage: so as you say shouldn't be a problem mate, hopefully!! I'm in for one.

Haha me neither! Let's make it happen then! :)
 

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Come on guys, you know you want it in your life! As Matt said, we need some retro models (Heuer Monaco included) in the rep world! :)
 

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Just c/p my post and add your number and name. ;)
 

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I have a Gen Flight Master that my dad purchased in Munich in 1969 or 70's, and it's the same watch, only changes the dial, or i think so, definitely I'm on!!!!

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Count me in. I've been searching for this quartz version all morning to no avail
 

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Quartz version is available on watcheden but with strap only. Couldn't find any others myself.