Please show me where to get a damn Cousins DG2813 second hand

[JDM180]

Hitting my head against a wall here with my 1680 build :frusty:

Snapped the second hand pinion so had to get a replacement 2813 from cousins , Then had to wait 3 weeks for a new set of 21J hands , Hour one fit fine , minute hand took some force but the damn second hand is way to small to fit.

Now Im not ordering anything more unless I know it will fit and if I cant find anything the whole thing is going to be a lost cause

Cousins dont list the hand size for the movement but ofrei lists the same ( labeled as DG2813 anyway ) as being 1.00/1.50/.17

Please Please Please if anyone can show me where to get a correct second hand or even has one lying around I could purchase let me know

 

[Raddave]

Measure the pinion with a digital caliper.

If the .17 wont fit, youll have to use a .20 and reduce the hole size to make it fit.

 

[JDM180]

Thanks Il measure it tonight , How to you reduce the hole size ?

The second hand I bought that is too small - could it be opened up ?

 

[SSTEEL]

A tube closing stake usually found in a staking set. Similar to these.. 7 Hole closing Punch set for watchmakers watch clock repairs stakes punches but the one you want have an inverted cone end, so when the hand is on your anvil, with the tube facing upwards, you used the stake, which when gently tapped onto the tube will close the hole. Take your time, 0.1mm at at time until you got it right.

 

[JDM180]

Makes sense but cant find any inverted cone versions and am not spending £40 odd for this , surely there is a simpler and cheaper option for either making one of these hands fit or getting hold of the correect second hand size ,

Ive just measured the cannon pin and it shows : 0.17 , the second hand I was sent from silix must be smaller than this

Measured the pin on the movement the spare second hand came from in my box and its 0.2

 

[KBH]

Raffles-time: http://www.ebay.com/itm/160705345081

Either vintage or white.

 

[Raddave]

well it looks like silix sent you a non standard size hand then.

The 2813 seconds hands are .17
ive sized a eta (.20) hand to fit a 2813 before, and i realize its not the correct way to do it, but it worked out fine.
I used a pin vise to squish it to size

 

[jaycey]

You could put the .20 in a vernier gauge and gently pinch it to .17. This way you can see where your at

 

[JDM180]

Thanks guys , those raffles hands look to be the wrong size unless im missing something ( 8.5/12/12.5mm )

Raddave good idea can see me going to small very very easily though

Jaycey ive got some vernier calipers so could do that not sure how best to pinch it though as I wouldnt be able to get a pin vise on there as well as the calipers.

 

[Raddave]

I think jaycee is talking about pinching it with the calipers.
This might work too.

But id never subject my caliper to any load bearing type work.

 

[KBH]

Thanks guys , those raffles hands look to be the wrong size unless im missing something ( 8.5/12/12.5mm )

Raddave good idea can see me going to small very very easily though

Jaycey ive got some vernier calipers so could do that not sure how best to pinch it though as I wouldnt be able to get a pin vise on there as well as the calipers.

Yeah you are missing something. That's the lengths of the hands. You're making this a whole lot more difficult than need be.

 

[JDM180]

Damn !

Have ordered those now , if this dosnt sort it the whole lots going up for sale.

 

[bc1221]

Lol damn dood.

I thought you ordered the raffles hands a while ago?

Those worked for me.
Their hour hand is a bit tight of I remember correctly but they work.

 

[SSTEEL]

ETA seconds hand is .25 not .20


Almost all current 11-1/2 ligne ETA mechanicals take .90/1.50/.25 hands.


Almost all current lady's sized ETA mechanicals take .70/1.20./.20 hands


Most older 10 to 11-1/2 ligne ETA mechanicals take .90/1.50/.20 or .22 hands.

 

[KBH]

ETA seconds hand is .25 not .20


Almost all current 11-1/2 ligne ETA mechanicals take .90/1.50/.25 hands.


Almost all current lady's sized ETA mechanicals take .70/1.20./.20 hands


Most older 10 to 11-1/2 ligne ETA mechanicals take .90/1.50/.20 or .22 hands.

And he originally said:

Snapped the second hand pinion so had to get a replacement 2813 from cousins

Mickey, Mickey, Mickey..............

 

[JDM180]

Narh I wasnt sure it would fit so figured I was better getting the same set from silix , was wrong lol . Wasnt really their fault though if they are just sending on from factory.

Lol damn dood.

I thought you ordered the raffles hands a while ago?

Those worked for me.
Their hour hand is a bit tight of I remember correctly but they work.

 

[Raddave]

And he originally said:


Mickey, Mickey, Mickey..............

KBH, I think Ssteel was correcting me when i said i sized a eta hand to fit a 2813.

Yeah i though it was .20, not .25.
But i was still able to get it to fit a 2813

My bust guys......Sorry

 

[JDM180]

Package arrived , That took some bloody doing and was just about to give up on it when pop it went on and seems to be working like a good en Thanks Guys

 

[Raddave]

Congrats !

Now lets see some pics !

 

[JDM180]

Thanks man , Ive put a few pics up in my build thread