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Ideal TC v serial build? My specs and photos for general discussion

Om3ga_guy

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UPDATED: MAY 22 2014 - PHOTOS ADDED *SEE POST #14

Hey guys,

I've been building what I call TC "lite" frankens for god knows how long. It wasn't until about a month ago did I decide to build my "last one" and lock it in the watchbox. Back in January of 2012 through to the beginning of 2013 I built a few v serial engraved TC Sub's, sold them all not knowing that TC's unique v serial engraved case offering would become limited and impossible to find now. In the last year I built probably half a dozen v4/v5/v6 cased frankens all of which I have also sold. Why? I've always found a more interesting build to focus on until now...

A month ago RSH reached out to me and asked if I was interested in a v serial engraved TC case. As most of us know, this particular case was a limited run of a 150 or something (don't quote me) and in my opinion was one of the better cases with better finishings and workmanship. I jumped on it and said hell yes. One thing led to another and here we are. I'm building hopefully my last TC sub!

Having been around the forums for several years and built relationships with several of the Rolex veterans around us, I've had the opportunity to learn a lot. Arcadia's recent period correct threads have also been a tremendous help so Kudos to him and thank you.

Anyhow for those interested here are the build specs I am working towards. I am hoping to have all the parts together by late next week and a finished watch before the end of April. *Arcadia at some point in another thread I believe you quoted a similar recipe if not the same one.

Rep components:
Case: TC v serial engraved case (approx. 2 years old, rehault sanded by RSH)
Dial: TC KH dial
Hands: TC hands (same generation as dial to ensure lume is consistent)
Bezel: TC v6 bezel assembly
Bracelet ends: TC v3 ends with engraved endlinks (c/w 2mm springbars)
Datewheel: TC v4 datewheel

Genuine components:
Insert: Gen Rolex
Crystal: Gen Rolex non-AR with LEC non-service (I will reuse the rep gasket)
Crown: Gen 703
Clasp and dive extension assembly: Gen Rolex 93250 (AB code circa 2000) *alternatively a TC v4 clasp would be the best budget friendly option
Movement: Swiss Eta 2824 (salvaged from the original 2 year old case)

Budget:
$1,200.00CDN


I'll be taking random photos of all the parts as I gather and assemble them... Should anyone need or want specific angles feel free to ask and I can post them. I'm really starting this thread as general discussion.



4.16.14 - mid case:





































4.16.14 - gen insert and crystal:







4.16.14 - dial, movement and hands assembled:
*BK dwo needs to come out, date also appear to be right justified a tad. Strange as dates were perfectly centered when the original (non-KH) dial was installed...




4.17.14 - gen Rolex 93250 clasp
My observations as follows:
- spring bar that holds the dive extension in place has dimples on the ends
- fliplock on clasp has polished edges
- rivets that hold fliplock in place are much smoother and tighter/flatter against the clasp. Gaps appear to be equal
- clasp in general snaps much smoother and folds in and out smoother. No tight spots. All sharp edges normally found on a TC clasp are relatively smooth
- clasp assembly identical to TC's, steel thickness and dimensions appear to be the same

























4.17.14 - TC v3 bracelet ends





















 

Rudy40

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Wow ! I Would love to have that case! Very rare cases! Can't wait to see it together!
I want a sneak peak!:adoration:
 

rsh

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Nice !!! looks like my build, this case looks good, has nice symmetric CGs
 

mech500

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What's the rehaut depth like compared to the latest V6's....any noticeable difference in your opinion? Would be a great build I'm sure!
 

Om3ga_guy

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What's the rehaut depth like compared to the latest V6's....any noticeable difference in your opinion? Would be a great build I'm sure!

Mech I don't have a calliper to measure the depth but visually when I had both this case, the v5 and v6 case they all looked the same.
 

Om3ga_guy

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So my point of view on "good" SEL is a consistent rise from the top surface of the endlink to the top surface of the lugs. I like seeing a consistent reveal on all 4 corners where you see the inside of the lugs (although note I've personally looked at several gens with solid end links and even they tend to vary in consistency and heights). The TC's I've handled have had varying heights and often the endlinks sit flush with the lugs. This older case was much easier to work with and the end result looks quite good.

I spent about an hour playing with different springbars (and some bending and trimming) and I've finally landed on SEL positioning which I'm happy with. Note theres a nasty gap in the first photo. I was able to minimize the gap a little bit although not all of it. Luckily the bezel assembly will conceal most of whats there. The two important parts to me were (1) the end links are perfectly seated and flush against the case on the underside and (2) the radius between the end links and lugs are equally parallel.

Not so good example of Genuine Rolex SEL:


GOOD example of Genuine Rolex SEL:






End result after my 1 hour tweaking...










Alot of members will say that Seans (aka ETA SWISS) case is the best 16610 Sub case around. I think its a great case and love the cg's and of course the rehault, however the lugs have always been a deal breaker for me (see photo below). This is why I've always preferred to use TC's cases for my builds. Something about the triangle shaped SEL just looks odd and I've seen this on several Sean builds.

Sean case married up with TC v3 SEL:
 

mech500

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^^ Lol. That's my Sean case now. Agreed, that triangle shaped gap above the SEL looks like plain shit. I'm working on a solution. The rehaut is however nice and deeeeep ....which for me makes a sub. Gives it that submarine hatch look.
 

Om3ga_guy

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^^ Lol. That's my Sean case now. Agreed, that triangle shaped gap above the SEL looks like plain shit. I'm working on a solution. The rehaut is however nice and deeeeep ....which for me makes a sub. Gives it that submarine hatch look.

Cool! Yeah actually I believe a member on RWG solved the issue. He had the lugs shaved down to the same radius as the end link. I mean anything can be modded, its ultimatly how much time (and money) you can invest in this hobby. Sick build either way, the Sean rehault is one of a kind! (ST is good too, but again the case needs serious work)
 

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Om3ga_guy this is a FANTASTIC build I cannot wait to see your results.
Thanks for the detailed write up it made for a very interesting read.

I've gotta add one thing. It's "rehaut" not "rehault". There is no 'L'. I see a lot of people make this mistake and wanted to spread the word :)

Thank you
 

Rudy40

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I'm like you Omaga...I'm anal to a certain degree..Hence why I sold two Sean's cases..I have owned a lot of TC cases but not any of the new ones! But they look really great! Just wish they had the same lug width as the old ones!
 

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Very nice indeed. I have been searching for one of those cases. Love the build.
 

Om3ga_guy

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Hey guys, so a quick update as I finish my build:

I ran into a hell of a lot of trouble aligning the v4 dwo. It took some time but I finally got it right.

Challenges to note:
1. KH dial had glue residue from when indexes were installed at factory
2. Not sure if the KH dial is thicker, but clearance have never been a problem with TC's dial until this one for me

I'm not sure if its my datewheel assembly but I couldn't get around the overlay rubbing against the movement. I ended up lifting the overlay up by using more than necessary amounts of glue.

Datewheel all cleaned off (zero remains of factory printed overlay):




Datewheel installed:




Since the datewheel was elevated, I had to do the same to do the dial in order to avoid contact. So I applied some tape to the top side of the movement holder:



KH Dial installed:




Here's a set of TC's newest hand sets. From a quality standpoint they look the same as the old batch. Important thing is the C1 lume matches the KH dial:




Starts to get exciting here...:




And some completed photo's (I'll follow up with some hero shots on bracelet in a few days):













And for the folks who stress over centered dates (including myself):
Note: Dial is CENTERED perfectly...

























Side profile (coinciedentally the crown when locked in lines up perfect in the vertical position):













Some outdoor photos:











To recap on build specs:
Rep components:
Case: TC v serial engraved case (approx. 2 years old, rehault sanded by RSH)
Dial: TC KH dial
Hands: TC hands (same generation as dial to ensure lume is consistent)
Bezel: TC v6 bezel assembly
Bracelet ends: TC v3 ends with engraved endlinks (c/w 2mm springbars)
Datewheel: TC v4 datewheel
Clasp and dive extension assembly: TC v4 clasp. *I had to sell the Gen Rolex 93250 in order to fund another purchase

Genuine components:
Insert: Gen Rolex
Crystal: Gen Rolex non-AR with LEC non-service (I will reuse the rep gasket)
Crown: Gen 703
Movement: Swiss Eta 2824 (salvaged from the original 2 year old case)
 

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I like your build. I just got my v6 from TC. I have my gen insert, and the same xtal as you. I'll be getting the crown soon. Then finding someone in Germany to swap it all. Thumbs up!

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The dates is perfectly centered....Now that's perfection! Takes skill to get DWO that perfect!
Congrats! Looks awesome! Maybe one day when i grow up i will get a DWO that centered! LOL!!!
 

Om3ga_guy

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The dates is perfectly centered....Now that's perfection! Takes skill to get DWO that perfect!
Congrats! Looks awesome! Maybe one day when i grow up i will get a DWO that centered! LOL!!!

Thanks Rudy. The dates aren't all perfectly centered, a few are slightly to the left but it's not noticeable.

I don't think it's possible to align all the dates bang on without shifting the dial a tad to the left. I preferred a centered dial over a few mildly off center dates (by 1/2 a millimetre we are talking). My BK dwo's in the past had similar issues.

Gen datewheels vary the same way.

Photo showing the glossy raised font, as well as the bezel tooth, pearl and min marker aligned @ midnight.

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Om3ga_guy

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I'm still looking for one if these cases Excellent build.

Thx for the positive feedback brother.

These cases are a royal pain in the @&$ to find. Took me about a year and a half to find this one and couldn't have done it without RSH helping me out.


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These cases are a royal pain in the @&$ to find. Took me about a year and a half to find and couldn't have done it without RSH helping me out.


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Rudy is definitely an asset to this community. Wear it in great health my brother.