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3777 v2
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Whiter markers but markers and hands don't match it seems. 3/6/9 marker also seems a bit fatter than V6 Factory version. Also, note how the 6 marker is slightly out of place...
The current 3777 is from HBB V6 whereas this "V2" is from the Mark XVII maker (the one with the 1mm crooked XVII dial using an A2892). Not really sure why it's called V2 considering both were in development at the same time so there's likely no improvements on one another's flaws.
Whiter markers but markers and hands don't match it seems. 3/6/9 marker also seems a bit fatter than V6 Factory version. Also, note how the 6 marker is slightly out of place...
The current 3777 is from HBB V6 whereas this "V2" is from the Mark XVII maker (the one with the 1mm crooked XVII dial using an A2892). Not really sure why it's called V2 considering both were in development at the same time so there's likely no improvements on one another's flaws.
Hmmmm gunna hang back on this and see a comparison... Be good if a TD put some side by side shots in the same lighting to give us a better idea..
going to have to wait for more pics of this to determine..
not sure which will have the more gen like ar.
not sure which will have the more gen like ar.
And here it is on Angus' site, http://pureti.me/product/pilot-chro...n-black-dial-on-black-leather-strap-a7750-v2/
Things I personally noticed are mentioned below. But note that the pictures are not the best and not the same size so it's difficult to say with authority for everything but just my observances.
1. AR seems different but the lack of quality pictures makes it hard to judge. It seems there is a lack of blue hue (that's not a good thing as gen IWCs do have a blue hue)
2. Day/datewheel is slightly bolder/thicker font than the HBB version.
3. The concentric circles on the V2 seems to be "tighter" and more of the rings such that they're not as prominent/sticking out. Look at the 6 o'clock subdial, you can see the lines running clearly through the numbers in HBB version but not so in the "V2". You can try to count the circles but it seems to me V2 has many more.
4. Not sure if it's the picture but the large numerals seem slightly thicker/fatter on V2.
5. Red arrow seems bigger in V2 as well
"V2" by XVII maker on top- HBB V6 maker on bottom
Gen for reference:
Things I personally noticed are mentioned below. But note that the pictures are not the best and not the same size so it's difficult to say with authority for everything but just my observances.
1. AR seems different but the lack of quality pictures makes it hard to judge. It seems there is a lack of blue hue (that's not a good thing as gen IWCs do have a blue hue)
2. Day/datewheel is slightly bolder/thicker font than the HBB version.
3. The concentric circles on the V2 seems to be "tighter" and more of the rings such that they're not as prominent/sticking out. Look at the 6 o'clock subdial, you can see the lines running clearly through the numbers in HBB version but not so in the "V2". You can try to count the circles but it seems to me V2 has many more.
4. Not sure if it's the picture but the large numerals seem slightly thicker/fatter on V2.
5. Red arrow seems bigger in V2 as well
"V2" by XVII maker on top- HBB V6 maker on bottom
Gen for reference:
Sorry, I can't see any of the "differences" you see... And at the real rep dial - I have it here in front of me - you can't even really see the lines in the subdials. Possibly in bright sunlight, but not inside with halogenlight.
So: sorry for me there is no difference, only a touch of blue, which may result from the surrounding lights.
So: sorry for me there is no difference, only a touch of blue, which may result from the surrounding lights.
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Interesting, the concentric circles are quite obvious when I bring it up to my face to check the time especially when it's reflecting light. Not so much when it's on your wrist but I'm comparing dials up close here. The concentric difference is quite obvious looking at the pictures from my monitor. You can see the concentric lines running right through the HBB version but not in the V2. Just look at the number 3 on both subdials at 6.
You also don't see the bolder datewheel on the V2? Look at the 29 and how much fatter the font is. The U on SUN is also noticeably thicker font.
Interesting, the concentric circles are quite obvious when I bring it up to my face to check the time especially when it's reflecting light. Not so much when it's on your wrist but I'm comparing dials up close here. The concentric difference is quite obvious looking at the pictures from my monitor. You can see the concentric lines running right through the HBB version but not in the V2. Just look at the number 3 on both subdials at 6.
You also don't see the bolder datewheel on the V2? Look at the 29 and how much fatter the font is. The U on SUN is also noticeably thicker font.
Yes, there may be a difference between the 2 U. But to be honest: without magnifiers and direct compare nobody will be able to see it on the real watch.
But it's ok, you see it - I don't. So I'm happy!
But it's ok, you see it - I don't. So I'm happy!
Its a hard call to say without having them in the same lighting condition.
but some slight tells like you listed.
Question is which one is better built? how were this maker's other watches?
but some slight tells like you listed.
Question is which one is better built? how were this maker's other watches?
The number of circles on subdials: V2 = HBB = gen
The gap between subdials: gen < HBB < V2
The bezel ring thickness next to sapphire: HBB > gen > V2
Red arrow too big on V2.
iPad/Tapatalk HD
The gap between subdials: gen < HBB < V2
The bezel ring thickness next to sapphire: HBB > gen > V2
Red arrow too big on V2.
iPad/Tapatalk HD
XVII had a great crystal. But QC control was poor, all XVIIs with A2892s had a slightly off balanced dial by 1mm. It's not noticeable on most but some are atrocious as a crooked triangle adds to the effect of the crooked dial by quite a bit.
Hmm, didn't notice the gap between subdials but it seems you're quite right there and I agree with the bezel ring.
Subdials on the V2 maybe too small - check the gap between the subdial and the triangle marker and again at the 10 marker. Subdials also don't appear as recessed as on the HBB V6 and the gen.
From the videos at Angus site I see that V2 has a greyish date and day wheel base color, whereas V1 has black. I have V1 and can confirm that.
Greyish tone would irritate me.
Greyish tone would irritate me.
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B-b-but it says, "Pilot Chrono 3777 43mm 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on Black Leather Strap A7750 V2"
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B-b-but it says, "Pilot Chrono 3777 43mm 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on Black Leather Strap A7750 V2"
:hehehe:
Grey datewheel, too small subdials' diameter, too big red arrow, wrong polishing on lugs. As You said.
iPad/Tapatalk HD
Don't think of it as though it's a V2 from the HBB.. Two different makers isn't it? So therefore it should be a V1.. And from the looks of it early on, I would stick with the HBB version for now.