To new 187 owners - check something please...

[PolonusTM]

Dear friends,

I have ordered PAM 187 recently (should get it in two days or so). Since I wanted to do late review of this watch - I started collecting gen photos and so on... Contacted our friend ALE7575 to discuss the small topic of concentric circles on gen 187 subdials. He replied he is disappointed with his rep of 187 because it seems to have these subdials flat! He offered to send his 187 to me to make it easier to compare not only to gen but also to possible different version of 187 rep.

I got his 187 today. He was right - subdials are FLAT. I rushed to check my QC photos of 187, manipulate with Photoshop things to make these subdials appear as recessed - without success.

Now I think that the latest batch of 187 can have these subdials FLAT, which is wrong.

Can I ask anyone here, having the quite fresh rep of 187 to take a look at dial and check for recessed subdials? Recessed of flat?

 

[w4tchnut]

Is this a problem only with the most recent batches?

Mine is from last year and has the recessed subdials.View attachment 28581

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[PolonusTM]

that's what I wanted to confirm somehow. ALE's 187 might be just an exception. But if mine will have flat subdials or/and there are other examples of this problem confirmed - then we have a quality problem.

 

[ALE7575]

Polonus is right!

We can have a quality problem maybe in last batches PAM 187 from Noob
The PAM 187 that I have sent to Polonus is a Noob bought from Toro about May of this year, and has not at all recessed subdials.

Please PAM 187 owners publish your pics and indicate dealer and date of purchase

Thanks
ALE

 

[w4tchnut]

Is this a problem only with the most recent batches?

Mine is from last year and has the recessed subdials.View attachment 28581

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Got mine last October from Tony.

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[PolonusTM]

ok, now officially we have a quality problem. The watch I got today is lacking recessed subdials. Flat dial. Totally.

 

[tranzmizzion]

Mine is an older one. It has recessed dials.

 

[ALE7575]

ok, now officially we have a quality problem. The watch I got today is lacking recessed subdials. Flat dial. Totally.

Hi Polonus
Please, try to get info from Joshua in order to have more inputs about this matter before downgrading this replica
Thanks
ALE

 

[AP Boy]

Mine from May 13

 

[ALE7575]

Mine from May 13

This is the same as mine and about from the same date
Just a bit of recessed mark in subdial @9 the rest completely flat.
OMG!

ALE

 

[thereefster]

didn't notice any recess on my 187,not really looking for it though..can't wait to get back home to check it out..

btw got my 187 end of august..

 

[jd01449]

Mine from a member trade a little over a year ago

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[spankster23]

mine are recessed, 7750 older model...

 

[jaykay]

Not why Toro's selling them cheap? Factory knew they'd made a mistake?? (Nothing against Toro)

 

[ALE7575]

This is a Noob issue, not Toro issue
Toro is not the QC of Noob factory
ALE

 

[pgrboxter]

Hi.
Attached are 187G A7750 QC pics from Toro bought 9-4-13 awaiting delivery. Immediately jumped on the opportunity seeing discounted price ($168). Seems all sub-dials recessed. Watch looks awesome on QC, cant wait to receive it. Also included lume photo(note sub-dial numerals lumed). Hope this helps.
So far very happy with my three first reps purchased this week. Thanks to this awesome community I made good choices (AP NOOB 4.1 & HBB BLACK MAGIC LITE). I should learn to pace myself lol... Regards Philip

 

[PolonusTM]

Unfortunately, the problem is with the more expensive, supposed to be better one...


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[thereefster]

Hi.
Attached are 187G A7750 QC pics from Toro bought 9-4-13 awaiting delivery. Immediately jumped on the opportunity seeing discounted price ($168). Seems all sub-dials recessed. Watch looks awesome on QC, cant wait to receive it. Also included lume photo(note sub-dial numerals lumed). Hope this helps.
So far very happy with my three first reps purchased this week. Thanks to this awesome community I made good choices (AP NOOB 4.1 & HBB BLACK MAGIC LITE). I should learn to pace myself lol... Regards Philip

nice luck,me,not so much,so far bought 2 reps and both of them got prob,my 217 got movement issue and the 187 with the dials issue.
hope my ap noob 4.1 which will arrive next week will not have any problem.

 

[Z3k0]

Bought early 2012, nice recessed subdials

regards