yea, i know there's always two sides to everything, Rudy has delt with this other guy and pm'd him yesterday to see what's going on.... but I'm sure he knows he's been refunded.... pp notifies when you receive funds..... like I said earlier..... even if the watch was a busted P.O.S. it's worth 80bucks for the parts alone.... and once it was refunded why not just send the guy his watch back? not taking sides but the guy is out his money and his watch.... and no response? sure doesn't sound good.....