PAM 127, 243 , 441 ,Ball Aviator & Rol 16014 : Which are the GENs !

[Leewei]

Good day brothers ,

I would like to share the collection that belong to my friend and myself.
Collection consist of PAM 127, 243 , 441, Ball Aviator and a ROLEX 16014.

Out all these : There are 3 GENs shown.
I think they can't escape the eyes of the experts here.
No Asian 21J cheap reps are shown here.

441, 127 , 127 & Ball Aviator

PAM 441 - Wrist Shot

PAM 243 :

PAM 243 - Wrist Shot :

Better shot of PAM 127 & Ball Aviator

Another shot of the PAM 127 :

Wrist Shot of Rolex 16014 :

Meanwhile , enjoy the photos.

 

[Rwolf]

Aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh

 

[mykeos]

I've never seen a (good) rep of 441 so it's definitely a gen...

 

[NigelCA4]

The ball aviator and the rolex are gen. They dont make reps of those pieces. . . .

 

[smokiedabong]

That 243 might be an H fac with modified CG , a higher res would remove any doubts as I can't even tell if the dial days L or T

 

[Xtian]

441, 127, Ball Aviator.

 

[Rogerthat]

441, ball and Rolex
243 and 127 reps

 

[Leewei]

Nothing can escape the sharp eyes of the RWI brothers.
Shall reveal the answer soon with sharp photos.

 

[emmune]

Pretty sure the 127 is a rep (minute hand/distortion, also shouldn't the CG lever be closer to the case?).

Guessing the 243 is a rep, not sure though...(it's really a complete guess).

 

[Penerai 1950]

127 is the rep

 

[TESLA760]

This thread goes to show how great the current reps are.

 

[emmune]

243 pin on the CG raised instead of being flat to the CG. Is that the only tell from that pic?

 

[smokiedabong]

243 pin on the CG raised instead of being flat to the CG. Is that the only tell from that pic?

The pearl is wrong for the L Dial , the cannon pin seems rounded , the CG lever has a wrong angle, the roller is wrong. By all that and the brushing of the case I think it's an H fac with changed CG. A higher resolution and another angle might reveal other tells .

 

[tranzmizzion]

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[Kuhn]

PAM 441

Hi guys,

Just like you I'm a great Panerai fan. I'm looking for a PAM 441, but they are hard to get from a trusted dealer. This one on the pictures looks fantastic, may I ask where you bought it?

Would be very, very much appreciated!

Thanks a lot!

 

[cosmicgate]

127 is defi rep. Rolex could be rep too, need higher res for rolex.

 

[Mickyman]

Not an expert but would def say 127 from the crystal, I wonder if that was the first batch that came out?

My new order of my 127 seems to have a better crystal judging by the QC pics :thumbsup:

 

[DreambreaX]

we really need more of this thread to train our eyes.

yes rep is very good if it judge through picture, but in hand feel, i doubt it

 

[shelby1501]

Hi guys,

Just like you I'm a great Panerai fan. I'm looking for a PAM 441, but they are hard to get from a trusted dealer. This one on the pictures looks fantastic, may I ask where you bought it?

Would be very, very much appreciated!

Thanks a lot!

I think 441 here is gen, OP has thread somewhere about it. I asked about 441 few weeks ago and it was out of stock, just wait some time and it should be available again.

Also we never got an answer which are gens here? :

 

[PAMily]

Gen: Ball, Rolex and 441