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First Buy with MR, bad experience. Very Rude.

iamthestig

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He sent me my QC with smudges and not sure if there is a permanent fingerprint stein on the caseback.
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Wrong Rotor sticker as the one on his site.
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At least I got refunded, will prefer to deal with another dealer, that does not respond so rudely to customers after asking to get the caseback replaced, he just replied rudely as if I should have acceptd it.
 

trailboss99

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Permanent fingerprint? How is that possible?
As for the rotor sticker, it's a closed caseback so who cares?

If folk think MR is rude, imagine what they would have thought of Robert . . .
 

PANERA

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The finger prints are %99,99 at inside of the stickers not on the case back and for the rotor...It is close back Who cares...with the right sticker It is still all wrong mate
 

iamthestig

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Its mainly the rude emails, customer service was bad. But its fine, I'll remain with my dealer.
 

5up3rman

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Glad you have stated the facts.
To be honest 99% of folks wouldn't have complained about the things you have mentioned.
But hey each to their own and you got a refund so all's well.
 

iamthestig

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He probably had a rough time dealing with me being fussy, but that smudge he couldve just wiped clean, some off the engravings didnt even have paint Guess couldve just got some feint black paint, frm hobby store and fixed it myself.
 

KBH

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The paint will start flaking off as soon as you wear it anyway. Unless you plan on putting it in a display case you might as well forget about that or plan on repainting the lettering every couple of months.
 

kingkaiser

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The paint will start flaking off as soon as you wear it anyway. Unless you plan on putting it in a display case you might as well forget about that or plan on repainting the lettering every couple of months.

Had mine for 2 years, and used it very frequently. Back is pristine - in my experience the paint doesn't flake off.
 

KBH

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Had mine for 2 years, and used it very frequently. Back is pristine - in my experience the paint doesn't flake off.

Maybe I shouldn't be comparing it to a regular SD since the paint on mines all gone and I've repainted it a couple of times. I assumed they would be made the same.
 

audace

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Never heard of anyone rejecting a watch based on fingerprint marks and a rotor of a closed caseback watch
 

Footski

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Ha ha ha...........:lol:

In my experience MR is very friendly and offers pretty damn good customer service. Paid for a return on my IWC a few years back when my Noob-ness buggered it within minutes !!!

Fair enough if it was a Gen and cost a couple of months wages......But........remember these are cakey fakeys from the land of tea and crispy chilli beef !!
 

MReplica

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I've offered the buyer new case back due to the smudges immediately after he checked the QC pics.

The deal was broken due to his email bombs. Buyer changed his mind rapidly and emails
and also a PM came to me almost every several hours when I was trying to get him new case back. The buyer is from South Africa, seems he cannot understand what English I am using. He even checked with me whether I would use express after he paid me express shipping fee. This made me rethink that we might have more problems after sales. So it's better to save both parties some energy. So I issued the buyer a refund and eat the 5% CC fee myself. That's all. For email bombs, I keep the right to forward them to the staffs if there are more complaints from the buyer.

And I wish him good luck with other dealers!



He sent me my QC with smudges and not sure if there is a permanent fingerprint stein on the caseback.
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Wrong Rotor sticker as the one on his site.
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At least I got refunded, will prefer to deal with another dealer, that does not respond so rudely to customers after asking to get the caseback replaced, he just replied rudely as if I should have acceptd it.


Oh God! Please check your email and see whether I offered you the new case back immediately after you proposed the question? There are four emails from your side picking up the flaws of the watches after I sent you QC pics. And I replied in the exact next email that I would get you a new caseback. You might already get the watch without any problem if you do not drop me so many emails after I already offered you the new caseback. Seems like offering you a new case back is forcing you to accept the watch? I have no idea whether your English is really that bad... PERIOD:picard:
 

kingkaiser

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Maybe I shouldn't be comparing it to a regular SD since the paint on mines all gone and I've repainted it a couple of times. I assumed they would be made the same.

My bad - in this game, everyone tends to have different experiences. I probably got a different batch that luckily had good paint. Didn't mean to downplay your experience at all.
 

Debs2303

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Not to flog a dead horse but I have been meaning to post a review or at least a comment on my dealings with MR for a whole and have just been lazy.

Although given how fantastic this dealer is, that isn't a valid excuse or acceptable considering these are the guys that provide the link between us, as very demanding buyers and the watch makers.

I have only recently joined the forum and don't post often (practically never unless it is to make a purchase ).

When I first came across these forums I found it almost impossible to conclude a deal given my location (way down south in South Africa). No members were willing to ship out here. I found it strange given that many other countries that members happily ship to pose more of a danger re customs, shipping etc than SA.

I managed to make an initial purchase from Pix (who only agreed to sell to me on condition the watch was shipped to the UK with me assuming all risks and it would be left to me to retrieve it from there). In desperate need of a means to acquire more reps without first enquiring if the seller would be prepared to ship here, Pix suggested M.

I first purchased 9 watches in one order. They were sent 3 per batch and arrived from china to South Africa within 10days with absolutely no issues.

Bear in mind I was and still am a noob and it was my first purchase from an TD.

I have just concluded a lengthy sale process with M for another 36 watches, which have been shipped and although they are taking longer than the first time to arrive (still no word from our local post office of them landing here despite them leaving china on 9 June according to tracking reference M provided).

My point of that drawn out story is that I was and still am flabbergasted at M's customer service. You get different levels of sales relationships and the ultimate every seller in the world strives for is one of relational value (as opposed to the common transactional value - once off and at arms length).

I don't think M sleeps. He responded to every single email of mine beyond every expectation I had. He was courteous, helpful and downright stupendous in his dealings with me. His communication was of such a high level that I actually had to finally ask him if they were several different people responding to me over the duration of concluding a sale.

We need to realise that the common view that these watches, our hobby, are made in sweat shops under poor working environments and at cut throat prices in a dodgy industry purely because they are fakes (I prefer replica) is totally unacceptable, unreasonable and misplaced.

This is business for M and his counterparts. It is their major, if not only, source of income, and is the basis of their livelihood in a very uncertain global economy. It is not a passing fad for them or a luxury hobby that they thought would be interesting and fun to indulge themselves in. And I have been subjected to a sales journey thus far that exceeds many I have received from major multi national corporates.

We don't accord these TRUSTED dealers the respect and credit they deserve and assume because we are dealing in illegal counterfeits that the person on the other end is inherently dodgy and out to scam us. I think sometimes a good look in the mirror is required because no matter how you spin this (a hobby that is unaffordable re gens given the extent to which we collect or just an appreciation of fine watches or horologics), we are in fact not as silky clean as we project and profess. We are guilty of many things, both by legal regulations and moral standards.

To the OP, this is in no way a rant at you or anyone in particular. Not everyone is subject to the same interaction with the same person and one wouldn't expect that anyway. Everyone has different views, circumstances, issues and expectations and these are ever changing not to mention they all combine to dictate our interactions with others. My advice to you would just be not to right M off so quickly - he is out of this world when it comes to customer service and delivering what he advertises. You are entitled to a level of service or delivery because it is your hard earned cash being spent but I would definitely not close this avenue so quickly because you won't regret it long term.

To the mods, I hope I haven't broken any rules with this post. It is spur of the moment (out of guilt for not posting a review sooner and an instinctive need to defend M given my interaction with him to date).

To M, you the f*^ken man in my books . My number one go to guy for rep watches. 45 watches purchased since our first interaction in March this year is sound testament to that!

Regards
Yoss

Oops, just realised I accessed the forum from the Mrs account, the post should have been from username, Yoss1234, if it makes any difference.
 

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Bloody well said mate!