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Can a watch smith be fooled by a replica?

correctime

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Yes I paid the $140 and even though I had my doubts I went ahead and did it. Now the watch it's working perfectly and the second hand is not longer stopping at the number 4 on the dial. Now what it concerns to if he really performed a full service on the watch or not is a question that I might be asking me for the rest of the watch life. On the other hand he gave me a 1 year and a half warranty on the watch so who knows!
18 month warranty...you did well either way. Now did I see the Abyss described as a 40mm ??? The only reason I don't own a Breitling is their size...too big for comfort to me. 40mm ??
Who offers this please???
 

orfeo71

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my bad correctime, the breitling abyss I got its 42mm and not 40mm, my mistake
 

xX ZMonster Xx

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Then my question to everyone is it worth the $100 to have the watch serviced, regulated, and water resistance test done from the dealer? I'm interested to see if it is really necessary for a $300 rep.
 

dustindu4

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I wouldn't trust the dealer to service it correctly. Send it to a trust watch smith
 

arcadia

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Then my question to everyone is it worth the $100 to have the watch serviced, regulated, and water resistance test done from the dealer? I'm interested to see if it is really necessary for a $300 rep.

I don't know about $100 but every watch whether reps or gens need to be serviced. I'm okay with your intention.
 

pippo

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Then my question to everyone is it worth the $100 to have the watch serviced, regulated, and water resistance test done from the dealer? I'm interested to see if it is really necessary for a $300 rep.

I'll bottom line my experience with reps:
most of the time, yes, reps need to be serviced (poor power reserve is the first issue imho)
Of course it's worth it only if it's a keeper for you otherwise it makes no sense to invest extra bucks
 

stiff muckler

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"watchsmiths"

Recent WOSTEP grads serve da equivalent of da 'apprenticeship' - often in da factory or da brand service center. At da Hayek schules and da SAWTA programs, da students spend part of der advanced werk on da brand(s). Most of da Swiss, German, French & many of da Scandinavian academies, due to proximity and/or regulation have similar brand/manufacture exposure. Da "AWCI", & "BHI" (or da other regional equivilents) people don't have dis immersion so much, but again - da recent grads often spend time in da service center or at an AD.

So, da Bottom Line: If you find da young uhrmacher/horloger/urmager/relojero/watchmaker/etc and not da 'watchsmith' you refer to - he is going to either know or strongly suspect every single time he cracks da gehause or handles da uhren and finds something dat ain't kosher - because they are intimately acquainted with da detail dat defines these products after having produced or serviced dem and viewing dem at 200X magnification. And many of da old dudes down at da corner - in far off places - once worked at da AD or service center or they have da internet and have even visited dis board. ;)

sm iiH!
 

dustindu4

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Is that last post converted through the ebonics translator or what? Doesn't make any sense at all.
 

orfeo71

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By Reading the last few comments I would like to say that after got my watch serviced the power reserve has improved dramatically. I stoped wearing the watch Friday night last week and this morning I grabbed the watch to wear it again and to my surprised it was still going! I have a couple of automatic replicas and they usually stop going after a little more than 24hrs
 

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I am of the opinion that a lot of independent watch-smiths don't have much of a clue, my local one that I gave my PAM 111 to for a crystal swap managed to return it to me with the CG on the wrong way round/upside down. :facepalm:
 

trailboss99

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Then my question to everyone is it worth the $100 to have the watch serviced, regulated, and water resistance test done from the dealer? I'm interested to see if it is really necessary for a $300 rep.

hell no it's a total ripoff and who knows who (if anyone) does the work. The only dealer I would trust to have a service performed is no longer with us, Robert used a local 'smith trained in Europe for services. What you get in China could be the same 14yo kid who Assembled the watch in the first place.

At any rate for China 100 bucks is a ripoff, the service would be costing them less than 20 dollars to have done.
 

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I am of the opinion that a lot of independent watch-smiths don't have much of a clue, my local one that I gave my PAM 111 to for a crystal swap managed to return it to me with the CG on the wrong way round/upside down. :facepalm:

But there is a big difference between a booth 'smith, and a qualified watchmaker!
If I knew a watchmaker who couldn't pick a rep....he wouldn't be someone working on my watches!
O/S
 

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Recent WOSTEP grads serve da equivalent of da 'apprenticeship' - often in da factory or da brand service center. At da Hayek schules and da SAWTA programs, da students spend part of der advanced werk on da brand(s). Most of da Swiss, German, French & many of da Scandinavian academies, due to proximity and/or regulation have similar brand/manufacture exposure. Da "AWCI", & "BHI" (or da other regional equivilents) people don't have dis immersion so much, but again - da recent grads often spend time in da service center or at an AD.

So, da Bottom Line: If you find da young uhrmacher/horloger/urmager/relojero/watchmaker/etc and not da 'watchsmith' you refer to - he is going to either know or strongly suspect every single time he cracks da gehause or handles da uhren and finds something dat ain't kosher - because they are intimately acquainted with da detail dat defines these products after having produced or serviced dem and viewing dem at 200X magnification. And many of da old dudes down at da corner - in far off places - once worked at da AD or service center or they have da internet and have even visited dis board. ;)

sm iiH!

Is that last post converted through the ebonics translator or what? Doesn't make any sense at all.

He seems to think it's 'cool' to post in 'street' language, innit :asshat:

What he seems to not realise (or deliberately ignore) is that it's so much harder work trying to decipher this non-language that most people just skip over and don't bother reading it, meaning it was all a wasted effort on his part.

Just use proper english FFS, how much harder is typing 'the' than 'da'? Is your life so busy you can't spare the time to type one extra character?? :frusty:
 

stiff muckler

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Is that last post converted through the ebonics translator or what? Doesn't make any sense at all.

Danke!

He seems to think it's 'cool' to post in 'street' language, innit :asshat: What he seems to not realise (or deliberately ignore) is that it's so much harder work trying to decipher this non-language that most people just skip over and don't bother reading it, meaning it was all a wasted effort on his part. Just use proper english FFS, how much harder is typing 'the' than 'da'? Is your life so busy you can't spare the time to type one extra character?? :frusty:

Ich danke ihnen sehr!!

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And da vinner ist:

But there is a big difference between a booth 'smith, and a qualified watchmaker! If I knew a watchmaker who couldn't pick a rep....he wouldn't be someone working on my watches!
O/S

sm iiH!
 

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It could have just needed a simple hands adjustment>>>

And the "watchmaker" decided that he had "caught a fish".....My Omega Dynamic started hanging up after a few years, and Omega wanted $400.00 just to look at it!!
It took me @ 10 minutes to adjust my second hand @ 1/2mm, and fix it myself!!
Whenever you approach a "watchmaker" you don't know and trust, you're exposing yourself to the possibility that he'll assume your a potential "fish", and he'll drop the bait!!....If you bite, ......Oh well...!!!