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tjdilla

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anyone know the following model and if theres anyone that does a rep?!?!

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tjdilla

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you see i thought the same, but to be honest im just not quite sure it is the same.......

i also found these but once again im just not 100% sure, the copper colour looks far more glaring in the reps, and the face colour is also a bit too different....

and i know reps are never going to be perfect, but they just seemed that different i wondered if they were different models?


http://www.1-pc8838.com/00iwpg10001-portuguese-chrono-ssle-whtgold-a7750-improved-p-5490.html
http://www.yourtrustytime.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30_189&products_id=3679
 

tjdilla

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same watch by the looks of things but once again it does look just ever so slightly different! but thanks for the help!

non trusted? according to RWG theyre trusted? and are one of their main dealers?! with quite a few pleased customers?
 

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RWI and RWG have different trusted dealers. They are trusted over at RWG but not here. You'll probably be totally fine since they are a TD of another forum but if something goes wrong, nobody here at RWI will help you.
 

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Not won't AHX, can't.

The gen Portuguese comes in many different models and styles chou and it may be that the one that has caught your eye is not repped. At least that one is a sec@6 variant so chances are it won't self destruct in a matter of weeks like the sec@12 ones can.
 

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There's also the quartz option (not bad if you don't want to live in fear of a mechanical rep movement)...
 

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Chou,
We talked about this in a PM, but it seems like that information would help others, too.

This is an IWC 3714 01 ... a gen. It is one of the earlier versions, before 2004, possibly prior to 2000. The numbers on these earlier versions were pressed, actually stamped through the dial, instead of applied. You can see the slightly rounded edges on the sides of the numbers.

Currently, IWC and China use numbers that have little round tabs that are fitted to the dial after it is painted and glued from behind. IWC numbers are rounded, and reflect the light in a unique way. A rose gold number can look black, gold, rg, and sometimes silver at certain angles and the right light. The Asian numbers are flat and have sharp edges. They are unwilling to put the extra effort into these numbers.

I am not sure that I have seen a rep of 'this' dial, but the reps are like the current IWC models.

Mike
 

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Chou,
We talked about this in a PM, but it seems like that information would help others, too.

This is an IWC 3714 01 ... a gen. It is one of the earlier versions, before 2004, possibly prior to 2000. The numbers on these earlier versions were pressed, actually stamped through the dial, instead of applied. You can see the slightly rounded edges on the sides of the numbers.

Currently, IWC and China use numbers that have little round tabs that are fitted to the dial after it is painted and glued from behind. IWC numbers are rounded, and reflect the light in a unique way. A rose gold number can look black, gold, rg, and sometimes silver at certain angles and the right light. The Asian numbers are flat and have sharp edges. They are unwilling to put the extra effort into these numbers.

I am not sure that I have seen a rep of 'this' dial, but the reps are like the current IWC models.

Mike

The strange thing is that the current rep has a crown with a fish as was the case on the old model. Current Gen has the Probus Scafusia text.
 

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thanks for all the replies guy, i was fearing that it wasnt repped anymore! (or even at all!)

as for the dealer situation it is hard to choose which one to go for, but tbh i think il stick with the TD over here as RWG just seems quite quiet to be honest! (although the dealers over there are really friendly if im honest)

Il be purchasing one of the ones in the links posted soon (currently waiting on another rep that il wait for first)

once i get that one i purchase the 3714 and post a review and pictures (of both the watch and the dealer i purchase it from)

one final question, can someone help me out with what the difference is between two of the watches on perfect clones? They are both EXACTLY the same in the photobut one is an asian movement ($300) and the other swiss ($800) when i emailed the dealer he told me to go for the asian are the secs are @ 6.... however to me , with both the pictures being the same surely both the secs are @6?


I know one has the asian movement, and the other has the swiss movement, but how will that ACTUALLY affect the watch? e.g. longer life? better time keeping? quieter movement?
 

tjdilla

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Chou,
We talked about this in a PM, but it seems like that information would help others, too.

This is an IWC 3714 01 ... a gen. It is one of the earlier versions, before 2004, possibly prior to 2000. The numbers on these earlier versions were pressed, actually stamped through the dial, instead of applied. You can see the slightly rounded edges on the sides of the numbers.

Currently, IWC and China use numbers that have little round tabs that are fitted to the dial after it is painted and glued from behind. IWC numbers are rounded, and reflect the light in a unique way. A rose gold number can look black, gold, rg, and sometimes silver at certain angles and the right light. The Asian numbers are flat and have sharp edges. They are unwilling to put the extra effort into these numbers.

I am not sure that I have seen a rep of 'this' dial, but the reps are like the current IWC models.

Mike

Iv just replied to your PM but thanks again for the quick reply and all the help! definitely useful for everyone to get further knowledge and see your expertise more than anything!
 

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one final question, can someone help me out with what the difference is between two of the watches on perfect clones? They are both EXACTLY the same in the photobut one is an asian movement ($300) and the other swiss ($800) when i emailed the dealer he told me to go for the asian are the secs are @ 6.... however to me , with both the pictures being the same surely both the secs are @6?


I know one has the asian movement, and the other has the swiss movement, but how will that ACTUALLY affect the watch? e.g. longer life? better time keeping? quieter movement?

Chou,
That must be a mistake, or the dealer it trying to pull a fast one. There is not a Swiss sec @ 6 unless it is IWC's cal 79350 or cal 79240. These movements alone are more than $800. And these will not fit the rep case without significant modification. Ask to see pictures of a Swiss sec @ 6 ... but don't hold your breath!

Mike
 

tjdilla

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Chou,
That must be a mistake, or the dealer it trying to pull a fast one. There is not a Swiss sec @ 6 unless it is IWC's cal 79350 or cal 79240. These movements alone are more than $800. And these will not fit the rep case without significant modification. Ask to see pictures of a Swiss sec @ 6 ... but don't hold your breath!

Mike

well this was his reply when i asked the difference between them....

"Go for the Asian ... The Swiss movt .. The mod to sec at 6 is still asian..."

and then when i asked further he said....


"The gen Swiss movt has sec at 9 .. Some modifictation needs to be done
to move the secs to 6.. The mod parts are Chinese .. Not Swiss ..."
 

texski

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Ha Ha Ha!
I would like to see that Swiss movement with Chinese parts! :rofl:
He should just admit that he made a mistake and fix his site.
 

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Arghhhh......had my heart set on one of these after seeing it in an AD today....only to read about the sec@6 problem :(
 

tjdilla

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Arghhhh......had my heart set on one of these after seeing it in an AD today....only to read about the sec@6 problem :(

it really really is a stunning watch, in my opinion quite easily the best looking rep iv ever seen! but same as you... for the best part of $350 dollars im not sure whether to buy one or not if its only going to last 18 months!

one thing i would be interested to know if anyone else with the 7750 has any experience which these in terms of reliability ?
 

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Yep lovely Watch that...........

Portuguese Chrono Automatic, the Gen has a IWC calibre C.79240. base was an ETA 7750 - Manufactured back in 1999.

The above doesnt help..........Does it ??

Anyway found it in my book of watches I cant afford !!!