Sunday I'll be at the Shanghi Watch market on Sunday. Boy, do I wish I had 1/2 the knowledge most of you guys had. I'd just like to get a couple of nice watches with say 7750 movements in them. I'm looking for a nice Panari, a Rolex Daytona two-tone, and a Omega Planet Ocean. I'm not much good at spotting a good movement yet but I can't pass up the prices here.
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Going to Chinese Watch Market on Sunday
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well I wish I was there with you mate, would save me of all the ordering/delivery hassle :lol:
and if you can, could you please give us some prices examples? I' m curious to know how much does a Breitling evo gen2 cost there at the market. It' s selling for some $300-350 online, but it must be a lot cheaper there.
and if you can, could you please give us some prices examples? I' m curious to know how much does a Breitling evo gen2 cost there at the market. It' s selling for some $300-350 online, but it must be a lot cheaper there.
OrientVisiter said:
If you find a nice rolex sub can u buy it for me ??
I'll paypal u money ! -
just take a pic of it first for me though
.. I'm serious - the price differences are amazing..
I've been reading about some 7750 issues lately. You may want to PM Fakemaster for more info. He seems to have the scoop.
http://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47563
http://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47563
Word from my friends over in China, be extra careful when you buy something in shanghai or beijing, usually they mark up their prices ridiculously.
Which is totally different situation in GZ
PM me if you want a detail price that i got in GZ, there's another member who went to GZ a couple week after i went there. He probably can help you
Which is totally different situation in GZ
PM me if you want a detail price that i got in GZ, there's another member who went to GZ a couple week after i went there. He probably can help you
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One thought too, I don't know if you look Asian or not, but if you look like a tourist, you should probably prepare to pay more than a local would. If you can, take a local Chinese person with you who could do your bargaining for you. I'd suggest that you look to see what you like, then send in your agent without letting the seller know it's for you. Bargaining in Asia is a serious art form, not to be taken lightly!
I AM Asian, but I don't look like a local, so if I'm looking at something worth really bargaining down, I let my parents do it for me. My dad won't even let me talk to him in that situation, just so he can disavow any contact with me. I'd like to think it's just about getting a good deal, and not because he doesn't want to own up to being related to me.
Have fun!
I AM Asian, but I don't look like a local, so if I'm looking at something worth really bargaining down, I let my parents do it for me. My dad won't even let me talk to him in that situation, just so he can disavow any contact with me. I'd like to think it's just about getting a good deal, and not because he doesn't want to own up to being related to me.
Have fun!
Start your bargain with only a quarter of the opening price (yes, like $25 per $100 opening price), just to test. If they look at you thinking what a nut case your are or they ready to smack you on the forehead, then your bargaining price is way too low. If you don't get those kind of extreme response, then you're in the game. Of course they will still say "no" at first, but you just have to be resilient. Take your time, be patient and slowly increase your bargain price. It does not matter if they says "no" nicely or angrily (unpleasant tone) since it could only means one thing, your bargain is within their ballpark (means they still make profit). Just hold your poker face tight and keep saying you're going to buy many of them. They have too much competition there (which favor you), so be prepare to literaly walk away to search for a better deal. They won't let you go if your bargain is a good one. If they did, try the same strategy for the same item with different merchant. If the result is the same, then congratulation, you've found the rock bottom price. Lastly, there is no shame going back to the first merchant to buy the item you want if it turns out they have the lowest price. Good luck!
Thanks guys. I've been to this market three previous trips and have bought watches, bags, shoes, and a nice Northface coat. The coat cost me $24USD. I've learned to bargin from a buddy who lives in Shanghai. We're both American but can usually get a pretty good deal. I gotten two Rolex Subs for $30 each. I've looked at the ones on this forum and I can't tell the difference. I'm new at this so I have no idea what kind of movement is in it. My last trip I told one shop I wanted watches with a 7750 movement and he brought out 3 watches. When I started out at $15 he just told me I was crazy and showed me the door. He didn't even want to bargin with me. I was willing to go quite a bit higher but he was so rude I decided to go elsewhere. I ended up getting an IWC that I liked the looks of for $30. I have also gotten taken (remember I'm new at this) like the Omega Planet Ocean that turned out to be a quartz. Or the Panerai that the hour hand slips. I understand I can get that repaired easily. I just which I could identify a good watch with a decent movement and not feel like I'm getting taken. I got a lot to learn. Anyway its a lot of fun at the market.
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Actually, this has probably been discussed before, but if not, maybe it would be nice to put together a discussion for bargaining in Asia. Even though you, Orientvisiter (sic), already know what you're doing over a bargaining table, it's likely that with all of you replica watchophiles, there will be others of you that will someday get to Asia and want to barter over some of these things.
First, I agree with everything tz12r said.
The main principle is that both you and the watch seller need to be convinced that he needs to sell the product to you more than you need to buy it.
The first problem is always knowing what IS a reasonable price to pay. Typically whenever I go to a market of any time, I'll do a reconnaissance mission first, just to look at what everyone has. I don't stop to look at anything much, I don't touch anything, and if the sellers want to talk to me, sometimes I'll pretend not to understand them. I never buy the first example of whatever it is I want until I've seen everyone else's wares. Usually I can get a pretty good feel of what the bottom price ought to be by then.
When I decide on the vendor I want, I'll look at his product, but I try not to show much interest in it. My experience is that this is where a lot of people go wrong bargaining. And not to offend anyone, but I find that American women are the worst for this.
Actual quote of American woman finding bright shiny thing she wants: "Oh! This is SO CUTE!!! I LOVE THIS!! I HAVE TO HAVE IT!"
Sigh. They're not idiots, mind you, I know it's all cultural. It's polite in the US to show enthusiasm and admire stuff in stores. In Asia the vendor won't think, "what a nice, polite young lady" so much as they'll look at her like she has dollar signs tattooed to her forehead.
So then, follow the instructions posted by tz12r and when you get to a price that you feel firm on, I stop there. And if I know that someone else has a similar product, I'll definitely have no compunction about heading off in that direction. Typically yes, you can tell how close you're getting to rock bottom price based on whether they try to chase you down or not. And if they look really grumpy when you've bought your item, then you know you've won.
Also, know that Chinese people will duel to the death over what might be the equivalent of a quarter. One other thing, in Shenzhen (which is just across the border from Hong Kong), one common trick is that when the vendors do their bargaining, you'll settle on a price only to find that the vendor was offering you that price only if you paid in Hong Kong dollars (which are usually worth fractionally more than RMB). It's up to you whether you want to pay the difference. For some, it's worth it just to be done with it and be out of there. The vendors are counting on this too.
For those of us who are stubborn and find this a worthy sport, this is what it means to be Chinese--never to say die!
Good luck.
First, I agree with everything tz12r said.
The main principle is that both you and the watch seller need to be convinced that he needs to sell the product to you more than you need to buy it.
The first problem is always knowing what IS a reasonable price to pay. Typically whenever I go to a market of any time, I'll do a reconnaissance mission first, just to look at what everyone has. I don't stop to look at anything much, I don't touch anything, and if the sellers want to talk to me, sometimes I'll pretend not to understand them. I never buy the first example of whatever it is I want until I've seen everyone else's wares. Usually I can get a pretty good feel of what the bottom price ought to be by then.
When I decide on the vendor I want, I'll look at his product, but I try not to show much interest in it. My experience is that this is where a lot of people go wrong bargaining. And not to offend anyone, but I find that American women are the worst for this.
Actual quote of American woman finding bright shiny thing she wants: "Oh! This is SO CUTE!!! I LOVE THIS!! I HAVE TO HAVE IT!"
Sigh. They're not idiots, mind you, I know it's all cultural. It's polite in the US to show enthusiasm and admire stuff in stores. In Asia the vendor won't think, "what a nice, polite young lady" so much as they'll look at her like she has dollar signs tattooed to her forehead.
So then, follow the instructions posted by tz12r and when you get to a price that you feel firm on, I stop there. And if I know that someone else has a similar product, I'll definitely have no compunction about heading off in that direction. Typically yes, you can tell how close you're getting to rock bottom price based on whether they try to chase you down or not. And if they look really grumpy when you've bought your item, then you know you've won.
Also, know that Chinese people will duel to the death over what might be the equivalent of a quarter. One other thing, in Shenzhen (which is just across the border from Hong Kong), one common trick is that when the vendors do their bargaining, you'll settle on a price only to find that the vendor was offering you that price only if you paid in Hong Kong dollars (which are usually worth fractionally more than RMB). It's up to you whether you want to pay the difference. For some, it's worth it just to be done with it and be out of there. The vendors are counting on this too.
For those of us who are stubborn and find this a worthy sport, this is what it means to be Chinese--never to say die!
Good luck.
ahw676 said:Actually, this has probably been discussed before, but if not, maybe it would be nice to put together a discussion for bargaining in Asia. Even though you, Orientvisiter (sic), already know what you're doing over a bargaining table, it's likely that with all of you replica watchophiles, there will be others of you that will someday get to Asia and want to barter over some of these things.
First, I agree with everything tz12r said.
The main principle is that both you and the watch seller need to be convinced that he needs to sell the product to you more than you need to buy it.
The first problem is always knowing what IS a reasonable price to pay. Typically whenever I go to a market of any time, I'll do a reconnaissance mission first, just to look at what everyone has. I don't stop to look at anything much, I don't touch anything, and if the sellers want to talk to me, sometimes I'll pretend not to understand them. I never buy the first example of whatever it is I want until I've seen everyone else's wares. Usually I can get a pretty good feel of what the bottom price ought to be by then.
When I decide on the vendor I want, I'll look at his product, but I try not to show much interest in it. My experience is that this is where a lot of people go wrong bargaining. And not to offend anyone, but I find that American women are the worst for this.
Actual quote of American woman finding bright shiny thing she wants: "Oh! This is SO CUTE!!! I LOVE THIS!! I HAVE TO HAVE IT!"
Sigh. They're not idiots, mind you, I know it's all cultural. It's polite in the US to show enthusiasm and admire stuff in stores. In Asia the vendor won't think, "what a nice, polite young lady" so much as they'll look at her like she has dollar signs tattooed to her forehead.
So then, follow the instructions posted by tz12r and when you get to a price that you feel firm on, I stop there. And if I know that someone else has a similar product, I'll definitely have no compunction about heading off in that direction. Typically yes, you can tell how close you're getting to rock bottom price based on whether they try to chase you down or not. And if they look really grumpy when you've bought your item, then you know you've won.
Also, know that Chinese people will duel to the death over what might be the equivalent of a quarter. One other thing, in Shenzhen (which is just across the border from Hong Kong), one common trick is that when the vendors do their bargaining, you'll settle on a price only to find that the vendor was offering you that price only if you paid in Hong Kong dollars (which are usually worth fractionally more than RMB). It's up to you whether you want to pay the difference. For some, it's worth it just to be done with it and be out of there. The vendors are counting on this too.
For those of us who are stubborn and find this a worthy sport, this is what it means to be Chinese--never to say die!
Good luck.
Ya theres a few posts about it - but more info is always welcome !
@ OrientVisiter
Really... please .. grab me a sub haha
I'll pay pal you !!!
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pick out the watches from our dealers, even go to the brothers and look for what you want. Print that out and take it with you. I would never ask them for watches with 7750 movement. Ask for swiss movement and everytime ask for better quality.
You will not get a watch which is 300 USD here in the forum for 30 USD....you could be lucky to get it for 220.
I wish I would be in your shoes........have a good flight
You will not get a watch which is 300 USD here in the forum for 30 USD....you could be lucky to get it for 220.
I wish I would be in your shoes........have a good flight
guru said:
So that is the sort of price difference one might expect there at the market. I thought they' de be selling for half the price easy
Can anyone tell me how much I'd have to spend in a Shanhai copy market for a decent watch with an ASIAN 7750 movement? Keep in mind you can get some terrific deals there.
ronster said:guru said:
So that is the sort of price difference one might expect there at the market. I thought they' de be selling for half the price easy
If you are a strong price fighter you will get it maybe half price or a lil less, my first rep i got it in new york in chinatown and it was going for 200 and i got it for 80, so its just up to you and remember if one says no to lower the price walk away telling him no thank to much to much, once you see they lower it maybe half price keep walking around remember they are a bunch of sellers around with the same watches maybe different price...
recommend some street address in Hong Kong
Hi, I need some replica parts for an Omega build 007 Seamaster and some of those Asian 2836 clone 25J automatic movement modified to Rolex Cal. 3135 look movements.
Any recommendations? Anyone know what the 3135 look mvts go for there?
Also any ideas on who has those new OAKLEY MINUTE MACHINE watches?
Thx.
Hi, I need some replica parts for an Omega build 007 Seamaster and some of those Asian 2836 clone 25J automatic movement modified to Rolex Cal. 3135 look movements.
Any recommendations? Anyone know what the 3135 look mvts go for there?
Also any ideas on who has those new OAKLEY MINUTE MACHINE watches?
Thx.
Wow, someone used the scoured the forum, this thread is 3 years old.
Ladies market, Tung Shoi Street, Mong Kok, Kowloon for Reps but dont expect anyone to have a clue about movements or even decent reps. All crap and i have been a few times.
From what i read there are very few places in the world where you can go in person and get reps of the quality you can on these forums.
Order from someone here.
Ladies market, Tung Shoi Street, Mong Kok, Kowloon for Reps but dont expect anyone to have a clue about movements or even decent reps. All crap and i have been a few times.
From what i read there are very few places in the world where you can go in person and get reps of the quality you can on these forums.
Order from someone here.
Ladies Market
Went to Ladies Market last month on a Saturday. Was immediately approached and asked to go to showroom to see selection of AAA watches. I followed this lady 2 blocks she handed me off to another lady and we walked another block..... up 5 flights of stairs and into a locked room containing watches and LV purses. I know my watches and they were asking HK500-900 for pure crap. I told her I wanted ETA quality movements and she said they don't carry the good expensive watches because too dangerous of getting "raided" and arrested. So much for that.
If you want the best quality watches you have to go to Guangzhou Watch Market about 1 hour by rail north of Shenzhen. Get an interpretor for $50US per day and you will have a ball. Over 3,000 booths every watch and every watch part you can imagine.
Went to Ladies Market last month on a Saturday. Was immediately approached and asked to go to showroom to see selection of AAA watches. I followed this lady 2 blocks she handed me off to another lady and we walked another block..... up 5 flights of stairs and into a locked room containing watches and LV purses. I know my watches and they were asking HK500-900 for pure crap. I told her I wanted ETA quality movements and she said they don't carry the good expensive watches because too dangerous of getting "raided" and arrested. So much for that.
If you want the best quality watches you have to go to Guangzhou Watch Market about 1 hour by rail north of Shenzhen. Get an interpretor for $50US per day and you will have a ball. Over 3,000 booths every watch and every watch part you can imagine.
Did you get anything close to the quality you see here?
Most of what be buy here is made in GZ from what i gather.
Yeah... I did well. Bought a couple of High End TAG, Breitling and Rollies all with ETA movements. Some dealers try to pass off Asia Clone for ETA..... Smack it against the palm of your hand and if it is not ETA it will vibrate like a tuning fork...lol. Then they say OK OK.... I give you genuine ETA.... That Asia ETA...so much fun.
What is really interesting at the GZ Watch Market is some Booths specialize in watch hands, some in cases and some in movements. They sell movements by the sheet of like 50 movements on plastic sheets. They sell watch hands by the bag. There are over 3,000 vendors in more than 5 buildings. Really interesting.
I also went to Zhuhai China..... accross the border from MACAU. This is a MUST SEE. They have an Under Ground (literally) shopping mall full of counterfeit goods. Here I picked up a set of PING Golf Clubs, some really nice Asia TAGS... ORIS....Breitlings..... with Quartz and Asia Automatic movements for US$15-25 each........ I also brought my GENUINE Platinum Yachtmaster along, matched it up..... and bought a AAAAAA+ ETA REP with Box for 1,800RMB about US$270.........This is a HK made ETA Platinum Yachtmaster copy so close, I have to be careful which one I take out of my Jewlery Box.
What is really interesting at the GZ Watch Market is some Booths specialize in watch hands, some in cases and some in movements. They sell movements by the sheet of like 50 movements on plastic sheets. They sell watch hands by the bag. There are over 3,000 vendors in more than 5 buildings. Really interesting.
I also went to Zhuhai China..... accross the border from MACAU. This is a MUST SEE. They have an Under Ground (literally) shopping mall full of counterfeit goods. Here I picked up a set of PING Golf Clubs, some really nice Asia TAGS... ORIS....Breitlings..... with Quartz and Asia Automatic movements for US$15-25 each........ I also brought my GENUINE Platinum Yachtmaster along, matched it up..... and bought a AAAAAA+ ETA REP with Box for 1,800RMB about US$270.........This is a HK made ETA Platinum Yachtmaster copy so close, I have to be careful which one I take out of my Jewlery Box.