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Question for gun carriers

Pakz

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I hope that's a typo mate :facepalm:

Anyway, your premise is correct. Of course there are still guns in the UK and the EU, we still have hunting, game shooting, sport shooting and ranges for people to use. But the legislation to control the ownership of firearms is very very strict. So yes, criminals are still able to get hold of firearms but the percentage of crimes that utilise guns is so far far far lower than they are in the US that your argument doesn't really hold water.

The thing is that there is a difference in perception of violence, particularly from here in old Europe vs the US.
But when looking at the OECD stats for crime per inhabitant, well, guess what, for every type of crimes and victimization, the UK has more crime than the US...
One of the countries in Europe with the least crime (all categories) is Switzerland... and guess what? after their military service, the guys keep their assault weapons home... So there are weapons everywhere in that quiet nice little alpine paradise of watchmakers ;)

Most serious research tend to show that after controlling for all other factors (they explain most of the crime level, anyway), guns control tend to reduce criminality. Yet, then, knowing that the probability the guys around have no weapons makes me feel better... as long as don't realize that if someone carries a weapon around, there's a huge probability that this someone is a criminal... then I wish law abiding citizens could carry as well... then I fear they loose their temper, or one stupid drunk kid stole his da's gun, then... well, that goes on forever, doesn't it?

However, a country where the population is well armed is a country where the government is "more controlled" and less inclined to tyranny. No wonder why Switzerland or the US are more "real democracies" than most EU countries nowadays.
 

donaldejose

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When in Isreal I enjoyed seeing so many young people carrying assault rifles and pistols. I always paid attention to the nearest gun I could see and ask myself how it operated. If any trouble broke out, I figured I would be able to retrieve a weapon from a person who no longer can use it. For the same reason I miss seeing M-16s in Airports.

Yes, the constitution gives us the individual right (not the right only for the militia) to keep and bear arms. But if Americans no longer feel the need to retain that right (if indeed gun bans are proven to work) the Constitution can always be amended. It has been amended before and can be amended again.

It is really not something we need to fight over. We can change our "gun culture" here in America if that culture is proven to increase crime or "they" can change their "anti-gun" culture in parts of Europe if the keeping and bearing of arms is proven to reduce crime. The problem is a lack of clear and convincing proof either way. I would only say, in the absence of clear and convincing proof, let me keep my guns. Don't take away from me a means of defending myself and my family if you cannot prove doing so will make me and my family safer.
 

Anopsis

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For once, I am going to keep silent on this particular topic. Seems the ol' Doc is concerned about my blood pressure these days. :anopsis:

I'll simply state to the OP - carry. Try "banning" her from carrying some particular item in her purse just because you don't like it, and see how far you get. :)