Keyless operation

[twix]

What is keyless operation?

 

[murklemark]

All new watches are keyless operation, old watches used to use a key to set time, date and wind the watch. Then one Philip Patek invented the system we used today of doing all that with the crown.

'Those without a sense of the history of the mechanical watch probably do not know that were it not for the innovation of Patek Philippe in 1841--with the invention of the "keyless works"--we might still be winding and hand setting our wristwatches with a key. Although now taken for granted, the crown and associated gearing of the modern watch--which, miraculously, both winds the watch and sets the hands--is an extremely clever piece of engineering. One measure of the success of the design is that the virtually the same concept is used in every mechanical wristwatch produced today.'

Or thats what i've known the keyless phrase as, i could be very wrong

 

[levelmanroger]

You are correct, Sir!
And thanks for the nice history lesson as well.

 

[murklemark]

You are correct, Sir!
And thanks for the nice history lesson as well.

Thanks, though i just realised i wrote Philip Patek instead of Patek Philippe, that'll teach me for typing in a rush.
:lolcina:

 

[levelmanroger]

I thought you meant Phillip Patel - the American-born son of Pakistani immigrants who used to live down the street from me and who, upon recovering his stolen car, refused to expend the funds to repair the steering column and drove with keyless works for 7 weeks before the car was once again (and quite effortlessly) stolen!
I was amazed at your beadth of knowledge there for a minute.

 

[marshal1085]

I also want to share this watch, because I love it. This has one of the top innovations of any watch...ever?

It uses a winding key (it is more of a wrench) because of the amount of torque needed to wind the twin mainspring barrel. Why is it such an innovation? It has a cool 31 days of reserve...amazing.

It will also set you back $150k. I realize that this watch wasn't the intention of the question, but I wanted to share anyways:

I'm sure they will rep it any day now

A. Lange & Sohne's Lange 31:

http://www.alange-soehne.com/cms/en/timepieces/lange-31/lange-31/index.html

And some watch porn:
http://www.alange-soehne.com/cms/en/timepieces/lange-31/lange-31/movement.html

(check out the movement under the loupe!)

 

[JC7]

I thought you meant Phillip Patel - the American-born son of Pakistani immigrants who used to live down the street from me and who, upon recovering his stolen car, refused to expend the funds to repair the steering column and drove with keyless works for 7 weeks before the car was once again (and quite effortlessly) stolen!
I was amazed at your beadth of knowledge there for a minute.

lmfao

 

[murklemark]

I thought you meant Phillip Patel - the American-born son of Pakistani immigrants who used to live down the street from me and who, upon recovering his stolen car, refused to expend the funds to repair the steering column and drove with keyless works for 7 weeks before the car was once again (and quite effortlessly) stolen!
I was amazed at your beadth of knowledge there for a minute.

Hey you leave Mr. Patel alone, when he got a key cut he spent weeks trying to work out where to slot it in..

 

[guru]

now a riddle, what happened if the keyless works on an Eta movment broke?
Let us say, a 2824.
A hint : there could be a lot of different problems, but just think about the noobs here.......

 

[murklemark]

now a riddle, what happened if the keyless works on an Eta movment broke?
Let us say, a 2824.
A hint : there could be a lot of different problems, but just think about the noobs here.......

As in you were to dislodge the set lever and/or yoke?? I'm not sure what would happen apart from maybe the stem getting stuck, i'm interested to know what would happen though.

 

[cybee]

now a riddle, what happened if the keyless works on an Eta movment broke?

ANSWER: Fix it!

 

[guru]

nobody? what is a common mistake?

 

[ikiestik]

I wild stab in the dark here....... Setting the date at midnight?


P

 

[guru]

I wild stab in the dark here....... Setting the date at midnight?


P

NO

 

[mroz]

Pressing stem release pin to hard?

 

[Pix]

Yes, when you remove the crown, you should let it at the running position (not hack position) and press the release button only half way...

 

[twix]

Yes, when you remove the crown, you should let it at the running position (not hack position) and press the release button only half way...

Explain that again please in newb talk?

:thinking:

 

[Pix]

Don't pull out the crown when you want to release the stem.
Then press the button only gently, not too hard, or you may have problems with the keyless work.

 

[mroz]

Don't pull out the crown when you want to release the stem.
Then press the button only gently, not too hard, or you may have problems with the keyless work.

+1

I done that the other day on an new ETA 2836-2.....

 

[KBH]

Hate to disagree but I think most professionals would tell you to always remove the stem in the time set position.