Of course I have had Philly Cheese. I live in Jersey! It's the only thing good in Philly lol...Lousy nasty people in Philly, but the foods another story. :lol2:
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Fakey Has a Seven Day Timeout
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NYC? Chicago? The best pizza on the planet is in Boston, Mass......in my great aunt Mary's kitchen. Just sayin'.
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Don't take it wrong, not meant to be "fatherly" advice. Just a psychological comment about the underlying cause of seemingly "bad" behavior.
Most of us "blow a fuse" or "pop a cork" once in a while and sometimes it doesn't really have to do much with the event which precipitated the blow-up.
When some "steam is released" it often has been building up for a long time and may be due to factors we don't even know about.
I have seen people become "overly combative" for no good reason after their dog died, for example.
I think it was anger about that loss erupting to the surface unexpectedly (even to them).
Who would think the real cause of an outburst at work was a lost pet?
We don't know when people we are not close to lose their pets, or even their children.
I have seen people suddenly draw a line in the sand and stubbornly refuse to take one more step back once they have felt (correctly or incorrectly) that they have been criticized or attacked one time too many. I have done that.
I don't know the specific situation with Fakemaster or the specific cause of his sanctionable behavior.
But, there may be a reason (in his own head) we don't know about which made his behavior "make sense" to him at the time.
Lots of people, criminals included, get into trouble for behavior which seemed to be justified or reasonable or even a good idea to them at the time.
I know a guy now serving time for attempted murder who told me that shooting the guard to get away seemed to be a good idea at the time!
The passage of time is usually the right answer to allow the parties to "cool off."
However, when it comes to children I don't believe in "time outs" and believe more in a spanking after a few warnings.
Don't take it wrong, not meant to be "fatherly" advice. Just a psychological comment about the underlying cause of seemingly "bad" behavior.
Most of us "blow a fuse" or "pop a cork" once in a while and sometimes it doesn't really have to do much with the event which precipitated the blow-up.
When some "steam is released" it often has been building up for a long time and may be due to factors we don't even know about.
I have seen people become "overly combative" for no good reason after their dog died, for example.
I think it was anger about that loss erupting to the surface unexpectedly (even to them).
Who would think the real cause of an outburst at work was a lost pet?
We don't know when people we are not close to lose their pets, or even their children.
I have seen people suddenly draw a line in the sand and stubbornly refuse to take one more step back once they have felt (correctly or incorrectly) that they have been criticized or attacked one time too many. I have done that.
I don't know the specific situation with Fakemaster or the specific cause of his sanctionable behavior.
But, there may be a reason (in his own head) we don't know about which made his behavior "make sense" to him at the time.
Lots of people, criminals included, get into trouble for behavior which seemed to be justified or reasonable or even a good idea to them at the time.
I know a guy now serving time for attempted murder who told me that shooting the guard to get away seemed to be a good idea at the time!
The passage of time is usually the right answer to allow the parties to "cool off."
However, when it comes to children I don't believe in "time outs" and believe more in a spanking after a few warnings.
Well said Donaldejose.
I also agree with the spanking.
Chicago Pizza, Philly cheese, what about meat empanadas!!
I also agree with the spanking.
Chicago Pizza, Philly cheese, what about meat empanadas!!
I just returned here from a couple of months of been busy at work, and can say Im very surprised about fakey been given a time out and hope he returns soon. Plu Im not sure what the story is??
With all due respect Q5 [you slanderous troll you! :lol:], positive discipline is Bullshit, look at all the brats running amok doing as they please! I was spanked as a kid and I turned out just right, once spanked for something you learned you shouldn't do it again or you're getting the belt! Nowadays with non-physical punishment kids are thinking "what's the worst they can do, ground me?", lol.
+1...and to add, I have never had to hit my kid, but it's known I would, if need be, and that works.
PecMan
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well rwi thinks he won and fakey can not navigate on their page for 7 days lol lol do u think im really pecma ??? wuuuuhahahahahhaha wuuuuahahahahahahaah wuuuuahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! (lol and holding a glass of whiskey in front of the computer)
Talking. Saying No. Timeouts. Spanking.
There has long been a debate as to how to best raise children, how to reform juvenile delinquents, and how to change criminals.
I wish I knew these answers. I don't.
Spanking, reform schools and prisons are not designed to make them feel bad about themselves.
They are attempts to break deliberate disobedience to the rules or refusal to exercise self-control and self-discipline in following the rules.
Spanking children can be considered "child abuse" and if the majority of society so agrees parents who spank their children my have those children taken by the State.
We are not far from that happening in some states while "spare the rod, spoil the child' is the standard in other (less enlightened some would say?) states.
Likewise, certain past actions by reform schools and prisons to punish those who fail to follow the rules can be considered to be "cruel and unusual punishment" today and therefore are no longer allowed.
It is hard to know for sure which technique works best in helping a child learn to exercise self control so they do what they are supposed to do and do not do what they are not supposed to do.
If whatever you do works for your child, that is just great!
Maybe each child will respond to a different approach since each child is different.
I always tell my kids: "I did the best I knew how to do for you; your job is to figure out how to do better for your own kids."
So many different ways (hard labor on rock pile, chain gangs, solitary confinement, cell blocks, college-like dormitories, etc) have been tried to change prisoners and the recidivism rate has remained about 70% for as long as I think statistics have been kept no matter what type of prison system was used.
Perhaps what makes a person a criminal is genetic and nothing can be done to change 70% of them until medicine discovers treatments for genetic defects.
Likewise, perhaps whatever makes a person behave "good" or "bad" is genetic and little can be done to raise a good child if they have a genetic predisposition to be bad.
Those who have the responsibility for the child or prisoner get to try what method they think will or may work and those of us who do not have that responsibility should be cautious in claiming we know better.
At RWI the Admin is the "law in this town" responsible for keeping order and a civil society here.
They get to select the methods they want to use here and we should be cautious in second guessing them.
Certainly, they will make some mistakes and so would we if we were in charge.
There has long been a debate as to how to best raise children, how to reform juvenile delinquents, and how to change criminals.
I wish I knew these answers. I don't.
Spanking, reform schools and prisons are not designed to make them feel bad about themselves.
They are attempts to break deliberate disobedience to the rules or refusal to exercise self-control and self-discipline in following the rules.
Spanking children can be considered "child abuse" and if the majority of society so agrees parents who spank their children my have those children taken by the State.
We are not far from that happening in some states while "spare the rod, spoil the child' is the standard in other (less enlightened some would say?) states.
Likewise, certain past actions by reform schools and prisons to punish those who fail to follow the rules can be considered to be "cruel and unusual punishment" today and therefore are no longer allowed.
It is hard to know for sure which technique works best in helping a child learn to exercise self control so they do what they are supposed to do and do not do what they are not supposed to do.
If whatever you do works for your child, that is just great!
Maybe each child will respond to a different approach since each child is different.
I always tell my kids: "I did the best I knew how to do for you; your job is to figure out how to do better for your own kids."
So many different ways (hard labor on rock pile, chain gangs, solitary confinement, cell blocks, college-like dormitories, etc) have been tried to change prisoners and the recidivism rate has remained about 70% for as long as I think statistics have been kept no matter what type of prison system was used.
Perhaps what makes a person a criminal is genetic and nothing can be done to change 70% of them until medicine discovers treatments for genetic defects.
Likewise, perhaps whatever makes a person behave "good" or "bad" is genetic and little can be done to raise a good child if they have a genetic predisposition to be bad.
Those who have the responsibility for the child or prisoner get to try what method they think will or may work and those of us who do not have that responsibility should be cautious in claiming we know better.
At RWI the Admin is the "law in this town" responsible for keeping order and a civil society here.
They get to select the methods they want to use here and we should be cautious in second guessing them.
Certainly, they will make some mistakes and so would we if we were in charge.
Wow. I've been a sporadic visitor in the last several weeks and surprised to see this post. I've purchased a couple of watches from FM also and the transactions as well as the watches have been top notch. There is no way that this could have been a easy decision for the mods.
spanking is ok really. just not the kind donald is talkin and talking and talking and talking about 
smackabooty kind is good the rest blows midgets!!! western world is spanking the rest of the world atm.....and it's like really working out good !!!! as to fakey he's a really cool guy. he is also a guy who says things just like ha sees them. that causes some people to be offended once in a while. if fakey didn't see it- then it didn't happen that's it! some times he is wrong!! but I'm sure that he is also able to take it, when it comes back at him, I'm pretty sure......
smackabooty kind is good the rest blows midgets!!! western world is spanking the rest of the world atm.....and it's like really working out good !!!! as to fakey he's a really cool guy. he is also a guy who says things just like ha sees them. that causes some people to be offended once in a while. if fakey didn't see it- then it didn't happen that's it! some times he is wrong!! but I'm sure that he is also able to take it, when it comes back at him, I'm pretty sure......I just see this issue from a higher level of abstraction: i.e. mechanisms of social control.
I tried to note that human behavior is not so well understood and how to modify human behavior is even less well understood.
Whoever is in charge gets to try whatever they think will work.
That's all. Sorry if my posts are too long for you.
I tried to note that human behavior is not so well understood and how to modify human behavior is even less well understood.
Whoever is in charge gets to try whatever they think will work.
That's all. Sorry if my posts are too long for you.
We all know that Fakey can have a grumpy attitude at times, and that he FERVENTLY believes in what he believes in. That being said, he also is an invaluable resource here and I, for one, hope he comes back after 7 days and lets bygones be bygones.
I have no idea what led up to this disciplinary action, and I'm sure I would not condone it, but I still consider him a friend and wish him nothing but the best.
I have no idea what led up to this disciplinary action, and I'm sure I would not condone it, but I still consider him a friend and wish him nothing but the best.
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Not at all Don, I appreciate your POV.
BTW, I just finished an interesting book I'm sure you have also read. Journey to Chernobyl by Glenn Cheney. You may even know the guy. Scary stuff. Those Russians!
Col.
BTW, I just finished an interesting book I'm sure you have also read. Journey to Chernobyl by Glenn Cheney. You may even know the guy. Scary stuff. Those Russians!
Col.
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