SA3135 vs SH3135

[bkdc]

I decided to read the very good RWI article right here

https://replica-watch.info/why-is-the-lettering-on-jfs-explorer-213270-so-strange-38a7d85db5d

and the article differentiates Asian 3135/3132 clones used by Noob and by JF factories. The assertion that JF's clone movements are more reliable was news to me, especially since these movements haven't been around that long.

Can anyone verify what the article states?

 

[ssouthall6]

The movements have been around for years we just knew them as yuki.

Both movements are solid provided you get them serviced. The sa3135 got some bad press because noob, when they released the v6s sub and dssd, used a batch of old v1 sa3135's that had the weak stem issue. The v2's are better but suffer from shit quality driving and reversing wheels. This isn't unusual - if you looked carefully at an Asian 2836 vs a Swiss for example, the issues are the same. Poor materials used and poor QC. BUT contrary to popular belief you can replace them on the sa3135 with gen parts by grinding the jewel. You would need an extremely skilled modder to do this. What it essentially means is it isn't the time bomb everyone makes out and in fact can be serviced not chucked out and replaced. I have 3 and they are my best timekeepers.

All Asian movements are reasonably designed but poorly assembled. I would always recommend a service immediately regardless of movement. Get it tested to 5atm and away you go.


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[timto1388]

The movements have been around for years we just knew them as yuki.

Both movements are solid provided you get them serviced. The sa3135 got some bad press because noob, when they released the v6s sub and dssd, used a batch of old v1 sa3135's that had the weak stem issue. The v2's are better but suffer from shit quality driving and reversing wheels. This isn't unusual - if you looked carefully at an Asian 2836 vs a Swiss for example, the issues are the same. Poor materials used and poor QC. BUT contrary to popular belief you can replace them on the sa3135 with gen parts by grinding the jewel. You would need an extremely skilled modder to do this. What it essentially means is it isn't the time bomb everyone makes out and in fact can be serviced not chucked out and replaced. I have 3 and they are my best timekeepers.

All Asian movements are reasonably designed but poorly assembled. I would always recommend a service immediately regardless of movement. Get it tested to 5atm and away you go.


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May I ask ? Have you been serviced any Sh3135 yet ? Please do not feel offended with my question


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[Hinclimincli]

So, you're saying that their reversing wheels tend to fail and only a very expert watchsmith can be able to either repair them or even put a gen replacement. How is that not a time bomb?

 

[ssouthall6]

So, you're saying that their reversing wheels tend to fail and only a very expert watchsmith can be able to either repair them or even put a gen replacement. How is that not a time bomb?

I never said that, what I said was we have discovered the reversing wheels can be replaced with gen. On all Chinese movements the quality of steel is an issue. But to put this into context, I have owned four sa3135 watches and have only had an issue with one which was resolved with a service, and that was 4 years old.

To answer the previous question, yes I have had a yuki serviced. As have countless others here. No offence taken.


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[timto1388]

I never said that, what I said was we have discovered the reversing wheels can be replaced with gen. On all Chinese movements the quality of steel is an issue. But to put this into context, I have owned four sa3135 watches and have only had an issue with one which was resolved with a service, and that was 4 years old.

To answer the previous question, yes I have had a yuki serviced. As have countless others here. No offence taken.


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Yes I agreed with you quality of steel on Rep movement is poor than Gen , if you hand not steady enough u might break some parts so easily [emoji24][emoji28]That was me ,me and my watch maker have serviced the SH3135 and we found out it's not totally same as Yukki or Gen


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[ssouthall6]

Yes I agreed with you quality of steel on Rep movement is poor than Gen , if you hand not steady enough u might break some parts so easily [emoji24][emoji28]That was me ,me and my watch maker have serviced the SH3135 and we found out it's not totally same as Yukki or Gen


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It's the same with all the parts. Hands for example, how many times have I had to go on the hunt for new hands because they just fall apart when you try and mount them [emoji23]

At the end of the day they are reps and are cheap for a reason but I have ten beautiful frankens and one gen that I wear in rotation and keep on the winder. Movement issues are so rare now with any of them. The best advice I can give is send for a service straight away and hope for the best. If you get a few years it's money well spent.


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[The Docta]

I know in comparison the SH3135 is way more reliable than the SA3135. You have to replace the whole movement when an SA3135 breaks unlike the SH3135.

 

[ssouthall6]

I know in comparison the SH3135 is way more reliable than the SA3135. You have to replace the whole movement when an SA3135 breaks unlike the SH3135.

This is incorrect, you don't have to replace the whole movement, we've found since that parts of the sa3135 are interchangeable such as the driving and reversing wheels.

The sh3135 has more interchangeable parts with gen but with a service both can be reliable movements provided they are cleaned and re-oiled properly.


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[raggi]

on youtube .watch repair channel service 3135 movement se and learn

 

[The Docta]

This is incorrect, you don't have to replace the whole movement, we've found since that parts of the sa3135 are interchangeable such as the driving and reversing wheels.

The sh3135 has more interchangeable parts with gen but with a service both can be reliable movements provided they are cleaned and re-oiled properly.


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Interesting! I have read the opposite on the forum. I guess others are misinformed as well. Thanks!

 

[rcom440]

When it comes to reliability,
I had way more luck with sa3135 movements than SH.
I have 2 JF Rolex watches with SH31xx and they gave me countless problems. One of them is at the watshmith for the 4th time - it seems I need to change some parts too.
My sa3135 Rolex watches are running strong.

 

[The Docta]

I had way more luck with sa3135 movements.
I have 2 JF Rolex watches with SH31xx which gave me countless problems. One of them is at the watshmith for the 4th time - it seems I need to change some parts too.
My sa3135 Rolex watches are running strong.

Oh wow! I read it's best to just swap for an ETA or other movement, then you can start modding with gen parts and have a great watch. Thanks for all the info!

 

[rcom440]

Oh wow! I read it's best to just swap for an ETA or other movement, then you can start modding with gen parts and have a great watch. Thanks for all the info!

ETA is the way to go.
I gave up on SH movements - I had too many problems with them. I've read that some members had similar problems with SH31xx so it's not just me.

 

[The Docta]

ETA is the way to go.
I gave up on SH movements - I had too many problems with them. I've read that some members had similar problems with SH31xx so it's not just me.

Awesome! I'll have to start doing a build!

 

[timto1388]

ETA is the way to go.
I gave up on SH movements - I had too many problems with them. I've read that some members had similar problems with SH31xx so it's not just me.

Sh3135 is a shitty movement to me


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[d4m.test]

The movements have been around for years we just knew them as yuki.

Both movements are solid provided you get them serviced. The sa3135 got some bad press because noob, when they released the v6s sub and dssd, used a batch of old v1 sa3135's that had the weak stem issue. The v2's are better but suffer from shit quality driving and reversing wheels. This isn't unusual - if you looked carefully at an Asian 2836 vs a Swiss for example, the issues are the same. Poor materials used and poor QC. BUT contrary to popular belief you can replace them on the sa3135 with gen parts by grinding the jewel. You would need an extremely skilled modder to do this. What it essentially means is it isn't the time bomb everyone makes out and in fact can be serviced not chucked out and replaced. I have 3 and they are my best timekeepers.

All Asian movements are reasonably designed but poorly assembled. I would always recommend a service immediately regardless of movement. Get it tested to 5atm and away you go.


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considering the the Noob V7 114060 with SA3130, do you know if this mod could be done on the sa3130 as well? Also do you know a modder capable?

 

[d4m.test]

considering the the Noob V7 114060 with SA3130, do you know if this mod could be done on the sa3130 as well? Also do you know a modder capable?

There are quite a few modders on here the work with those movements. Depending on what exactly you have can swap in some Gen parts.


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[electric]

When it comes to reliability,
I had way more luck with sa3135 movements than SH.
I have 2 JF Rolex watches with SH31xx and they gave me countless problems. One of them is at the watshmith for the 4th time - it seems I need to change some parts too.
My sa3135 Rolex watches are running strong.

Which watches??

 

[maxracingshox]

ETA is the way to go.
I gave up on SH movements - I had too many problems with them. I've read that some members had similar problems with SH31xx so it's not just me.

What problems?