ARF V4 up on Puretime?

[saucin]

Puretime added the following submariners:

https://puretimewatch.io/rlx2020093001.html

https://puretimewatch.io/rlx2020093002.html

They are not yet labeled as such, but looking at the quality of the hands and dial print, it appears it might be the new ARF V4 or another NOOB? Has a VR3135 movement. The dial markers are rounded (unlike their previous attempts). The lugs and SEL’s look good to me. Hard to judge the bezel color in photos, but the pearl looks good. Definitely needs a new crystal. Nevertheless at first glance it seems to be nicely done. Curious what you guys think about this one! I'm no sub aficionado.

 

[mariot]

the code on glidelock is 1NQ. this is not arf bracelet, unless they change it now

 

[Fervid]

I could be wrong here but I don't think it is, not to mention the engraving on the clasp / clasp code isn't as crisp as we see on the new ZZF V3.

Crystal looks like a step back from what we see in the ARF V3 too.

 

[GrandmasterChime]

No, double line rehaut doubt its an arf

 

[mariot]

this is my new arf 114060 glidelock

 

[Zenth]

Time to poof which Subs are the best!!


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[saucin]

Hmm wonder which factory it is... kinda fun playing the guessing game lol. The clasp code is 1NQ, but the closure looks well done - rounded and gen like.


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[maxracingshox]

It looks like a V11 refresh?!

 

[saucin]

Yea that’s what I’m thinking now.... looks like it’s a Noob v11s/v12 based on the bracelet. Doesn’t look too bad to me, but I’m no expert. I know people hated on the V11... wonder what their thoughts are here.


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[Darkness5.0]

Hmmm Interesting... Subscribed

 

[mariot]

Hmm wonder which factory it is... kinda fun playing the guessing game lol. The clasp code is 1NQ, but the closure looks well done - rounded and gen like.


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like gen i don’t think so..

and arf glidelock is the best replica clasp but even that is very far from the gen glidelock.

and I think the same for the whole bracelet, the middle links are very sharp

 

[KJ2020]

Definitely not ARF hands, the best in the business.

Even Noob hands are better than this. Maybe VRF or V9F

 

[DR Russell]

It looks like a V11 refresh?!

Definitely points to that direction, but wouldn’t that be too soon? And if so, game time pressure is on for factories as they see the improvements other newer ones are making.

 

[saucin]

Definitely not ARF hands, the best in the business.

Even Noob hands are better than this. Maybe VRF or V9F

Very true. This is interesting, helps me learn/notice some nuances I didn’t see before.


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[d3s19n]

Double lined rehaut, case back lippage... I’m guessing Noob.. looks good!!

 

[Tobel]

No, double line rehaut doubt its an arf

Agree, that's typical of noob

 

[fradic]

Bread knife hands, looks terrible. NOT ARF. More like VRF. i rename this watch to Bread loaf knife for Mice