Daytona 116506 CER/SS Ice Blue 904L Noob V3 A4130

[Berniebob]

Hey guys and ladies,

i am so in love with this Daytona 116506 Noob V3:
https://trustytime.shop/index.php?ma...ducts_id=20885

But i wanna have some opinions, since i am not finding that much about that model here.

Is it a real Noob V3, because i am not finding this watch at other TD's?
The main problem in the past has been dial issues where it doesn’t have the same color/sheen as the gen.
The Daytona "Red" looks a bit too dark for me.
Do some experts tell me all the flaws, known for this watch?

Thanks guys and keep up the great work here in the whole forum.

 

[ACE1989]

it will have all the inner workings of the daytona v3. great watch on its own. even on the white dial the red daytona is actually ever so slightly brighter and thinner. don't expect a 1:1. in real life setting no one will ever spot the difference. if you plan on getting genuine parts later on than this model noob is a great base and if not then this is really your only closest option to the real thing. you should find links on my profile of all the reads about buying a v3 daytona

 

[p0pperini]

Hey guys and ladies,

i am so in love with this Daytona 116506 Noob V3:

But i wanna have some opinions, since i am not finding that much about that model here.

Is it a real Noob V3, because i am not finding this watch at other TD's?
The main problem in the past has been dial issues where it doesn’t have the same color/sheen as the gen.
The Daytona "Red" looks a bit too dark for me.
Do some experts tell me all the flaws, known for this watch?

There's not going to be any difference mechanically and build-wise between this one and any other V3 Daytona. None of them is perfect but they're great reps.

The colour of the dial and the bezel change a lot depending on the lighting, so it's very hard to judge what the watch will look like in photos. And on the wrist the look of it changes constantly for the same reason. The sunburst effect of the dial is really attractive.

I've owned two Platonas (ARF and older Noob). I sold one and gave the other away as a gift because once the novelty of the colourway wore off I found I much preferred my white and black dial versions. The older Noob I had did have a darker (redder) bezel and the dial colour/sunburst wasn't as subtle as the ARF. The ARF looked better to me - although I have no idea which was closer to gen. But it's probably like the debate over Noob/ARF white Daytona dial colour - I think the ARF looks a better colour, but a gen owner when comparing the two with his gen concluded that the white of the Noob was closer in colour to his gen. The print and design details of the ARF dial are better though, so that clinches it.

 

[KJ2020]

In all of those pics on Trusty the subdial rings look black. On previous models and on the gen they are not black but very much the same color as the bezel. It's hard to capture the brown subdials in pics, but you can see it pretty well in some of these pics of my V1.

It doesn't appear to me that there is any substantial difference between mine and this V3. A key upgrade to other V3's was the fix to the little serif tail on the bottom of the R's in Units per Hour. I do not see that it's been fixed on this "V3", unless Trusty is just showing old pics and video.

The ARF dial is more pale and less full (saturated) a color than the Noob IMO. It's not as pretty to me though it may be closer to gen color. It also has individual sunbursts in the subdials like the gen which the 4130 Noobs don't have. The old A7750 Noob ice blues had them. ARF is not without it's own issues - the 3 and 9 subdials are frozen, the rotor to too light and can lead to autowind issues and excess noise. Choose your flaws, either model is pretty damn nice.

There were at least two different gen dials, one with the Rolex R above the T in Oyster, one with the R above the S in Oyster. All the unlabeled pics below are my Noob V1.

 

[KJ2020]

 

[Silverg]

Definitely not 1:1. The end links are a dead giveaway, moreso than any dial or bezel can ever be. You see, bezels and dials can have slight color, text and shape variations over a watch's production lifecycle. The case and bracelet shape have no variation whatsoever, and this tell is noticeable from much more than an arm's length's away. The same issue on the WG versions. Anyone who has ever owned a gen of a WG, RG or PT daytona knows the end links.

 

[p0pperini]

I doubt “anyone who’s owned the gen” of the precious metal Daytonas would have any idea that their watch had distinctive end links. Very few owners of expensive watches are watch geeks, aware of their finer distinguishing points of the watches they own, like rep geeks are.


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[Berniebob]

Thanks guys, i ordered it today and will let you know what i am thinking by holding it in hands

 

[Bullflo3]

Wow. From the TD photos (take with a grain of salt, I know) the dial does not look nearly as dynamic as it should - and as yours does. I think I know my next Daytona purchase - thank you!

 

[Silverg]

I doubt “anyone who’s owned the gen” of the precious metal Daytonas would have any idea that their watch had distinctive end links. Very few owners of expensive watches are watch geeks, aware of their finer distinguishing points of the watches they own, like rep geeks are.


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You are wrong.

 

[domsdaddy123]

I doubt “anyone who’s owned the gen” of the precious metal Daytonas would have any idea that their watch had distinctive end links. Very few owners of expensive watches are watch geeks, aware of their finer distinguishing points of the watches they own, like rep geeks are.


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Sorry but you are massively wrong.

The end links on the noob 4130 gold and plat daytonas are recessed in the lugs like a sub..The gens look absolutely nothing like that and stick out a few mm's over and past the lugs...Its a huuuuuuuuge difference and tell and one that can easily be spotted from a couple yards away, easy...Huge tell. A previous gen owner would see it in a second.. In fact any half alive watch aficionado would spot it right away...

Then theres the dial that looks nothing like gen and the hallmarks are a joke. I really do wish Noob would fix the Platona and all the precious cases in general...its such a huge flaw.

 

[KJ2020]

I think my tell would be driving up in a Honda Civic and sporting an $80K Ice Blue Platona, haha!

I try not to sweat the small stuff too much and only worry about whether or not I enjoy my rep. If I'm not doing that, I'm failing in my attempt to live the fantasy.

These are truly beautiful toys. And you don't have to take out a loan just to pay for the insurance on a gen! Sweet times indeed.

 

[p0pperini]

You are wrong.

Sorry but you are massively wrong.

You both missed my point. I wasn't saying that these details would be missed by a watch enthusiast. I was taking issue with the idea that any owner of a gen would call you out because they would spot this. Most owners of Rolex watches aren't "watch aficionados" - they're just people who can afford a quite expensive watch.

Anyway, it's a small point and a matter of opinion. And I'm with Kj2020 - don't sweat the details, because doing that means you'll never enjoy your replicas.

 

[padorkous]

Definitely not 1:1. The end links are a dead giveaway, moreso than any dial or bezel can ever be. You see, bezels and dials can have slight color, text and shape variations over a watch's production lifecycle. The case and bracelet shape have no variation whatsoever, and this tell is noticeable from much more than an arm's length's away. The same issue on the WG versions. Anyone who has ever owned a gen of a WG, RG or PT daytona knows the end links.

Regarding the dial i believe that you could easily swap it out for the arf dial which also has the correct sunburst effect in the subdials too

 

[domsdaddy123]

I think my tell would be driving up in a Honda Civic and sporting an $80K Ice Blue Platona, haha!

I try not to sweat the small stuff too much and only worry about whether or not I enjoy my rep. If I'm not doing that, I'm failing in my attempt to live the fantasy.

These are truly beautiful toys. And you don't have to take out a loan just to pay for the insurance on a gen! Sweet times indeed.

I hear you bro....but you know as well as anybody we all have our own level of "tells" "flaws" we can live with. For me, when I see the unbelieveable lengths Noob has gone to, to clone the 4130 and build multiple cases for it that look fantastic ootb and take Gen parts...then absolutely RUIN THE WHOLE WATCH by using SS style endlinks that look nothing and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like the Gen, bot under a microscope or with a Macro view but to the naked eye from 10 Feet away! And...and...and...its such an easy fix! Its also such an easy TELL that any watch afficinado will notice this...Its just super dissapointing..I'm curious if anyone has tried to fit an old, correct BP Platona bracelet to the Noob 4130 case? That would be an easy fix!

Overall I'm just so disapointed by the rep parts surrounding this amazing 4130 clone job that Noob pulled off...Overall the Noob dials are terrible too...just disapointing...

 

[KJ2020]

I hear you bro....but you know as well as anybody we all have our own level of "tells" "flaws" we can live with. For me, when I see the unbelieveable lengths Noob has gone to, to clone the 4130 and build multiple cases for it that look fantastic ootb and take Gen parts...then absolutely RUIN THE WHOLE WATCH by using SS style endlinks that look nothing and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like the Gen, bot under a microscope or with a Macro view but to the naked eye from 10 Feet away! And...and...and...its such an easy fix! Its also such an easy TELL that any watch afficinado will notice this...Its just super dissapointing..I'm curious if anyone has tried to fit an old, correct BP Platona bracelet to the Noob 4130 case? That would be an easy fix!

Overall I'm just so disapointed by the rep parts surrounding this amazing 4130 clone job that Noob pulled off...Overall the Noob dials are terrible too...just disapointing...

Very true bro. I think they do this purposely. Great movement, lower quality dial and bezel. Then incrementally improve the bad parts in subsequent releases so we buy again. Almost without exception the Noob A7750 dials were much better than the S4130s. The Ice blue had subdial sunbursts. And have you seen the new black racing dial? Almost NO red on the chapter and subdial rings, wow really bad.

 

[KJ2020]

Regarding the dial i believe that you could easily swap it out for the arf dial which also has the correct sunburst effect in the subdials too

The ARF dial can be swapped in but it's not easy even for your average hobbyist. The ARF dial is 1mm too large and has to shaved down. Best done on a lathe but since I don't have one I'm going to attempt it with a dremel. I've successfully done it on a test dial but the technique needs some tweaking. Also the dial feet need to be clipped and reglued to new positions.

I'm not going to swap the Ice blue though. I like the Noob's rich color better than the ARF

 

[padorkous]

Sorry but you are massively wrong.

The end links on the noob 4130 gold and plat daytonas are recessed in the lugs like a sub..The gens look absolutely nothing like that and stick out a few mm's over and past the lugs...Its a huuuuuuuuge difference and tell and one that can easily be spotted from a couple yards away, easy...Huge tell. A previous gen owner would see it in a second.. In fact any half alive watch aficionado would spot it right away...

Then theres the dial that looks nothing like gen and the hallmarks are a joke. I really do wish Noob would fix the Platona and all the precious cases in general...its such a huge flaw.

Could you post some pics marking the differences in the case and endlinks?

 

[KJ2020]

Rolex.com bro, look at any PM Daytona bracelet SEL

 

[padorkous]

Is that it or am i totaly blind?