GM factory Submariners

[dadog13]

Looks like another factory came up with their Submariners. I cannot tell the differencies between factories nor I can define if it is a good/bad rep. Check it for yourself..






















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[Stuvetjee]

Is it me or does the case looks hella thin from the side?


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[Stuvetjee]

smoke the sub king may enter


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[occb2]

Is it me or does the case looks hella thin from the side?


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It looks way off! The case looks like a modified chunky 16610 case.

 

[occb2]

We can really take this apart. The bezel is bad. The date wheel is bad. The crystal is bad. The SEL is bad. Everything that yells fake this has. So this factory needs too pick up where the other left off to make it. They need to bump it up a notch to get sells.

 

[johnlogan]

Dail color looks great, so do insert color but the SEL, Xtal, Cyclops, DW & Pearl is off.

 

[LaPavel]

I saw it a few days ago. I dont like great master manufactory sub....
https://www.tswatch01.com/mobile/goods.php?ProId=23188

 

[Smoke]

these are bp /vrf subs made from 904

now if they make them with 3135 I will order the hulk and order a vrf insert.the font looks bad and incorrect on these.
but you can see they are bp
the insert is bp slightly updated over the lastly bp but still has the same font as the old bp but slightly refined
the dial is bp
the case is bp look at the serial number and the Rehaut engraving
the clasp is bp look at the serial.these watches are bp/vrf
made from 904

 

[occb2]

Very nice these are bp /vrf subs made from 904

now if they make them with 3135 I will order the hulk

They do. The site shows an option of a SH3135.

 

[Smoke]

Just saw the link I might get one just to see it in real life then flip it if it's trash

 

[dadog13]

Just saw the link I might get one just to see it in real life then flip it if it's trash

Yes, they come with 3135 mvt.

 

[Smoke]

They look pretty good to be fair.with a vrf insert the hulk would be pretty decent.
I would need to hand pick one with good recessed Sel.

 

[thinwhiteduke]

They look pretty good to be fair.with a vrf insert the hulk would be pretty decent.
I would need to hand pick one with good recessed Sel.

smoke , if you go to the TSwatch website, this GM SUB is listed under the ARF page. Click here: https://www.tswatch01.com/mobile/pro...php?CateId=891
So, it appears GMF Sub is done by aggregator ARF and is NOT another factory. Aggregator using parts from different factories like you said VRF and BP. GM Sub also use the SA3135 movement from Noob for the USD458 option. And GM's can be had fpr only USD398 with A2836-2.
So, happy confusion, gentlemen!

 

[dadog13]

Some additional photos which might help on the final verdict (before anybody pulls the trigger)..














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[thinwhiteduke]

dadog13 , they actually look decent, and the 904L steel come-on may be a nice icing on the cake. However, their metal content could be below accepted 904L standards, though I am no metallurgical expert. May order one on SA3135, then. The trick is QC'ing the SEL tightness. The recess part looks decent, to be fair.

 

[Stuvetjee]

It looks way off! The case looks like a modified chunky 16610 case.

100% agree!


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[FarewellFire]

OFF TOPIC: How do these aggregator "factories" operate? I guess they source their parts from BP/VRF/etc and then slap them together. But why would the other factories sell them parts for them to become competition? Or am I missing something here?

 

[maxracingshox]

these are bp /vrf subs made from 904

now if they make them with 3135 I will order the hulk and order a vrf insert.the font looks bad and incorrect on these.
but you can see they are bp
the insert is bp slightly updated over the lastly bp but still has the same font as the old bp but slightly refined
the dial is bp
the case is bp look at the serial number and the Rehaut engraving
the clasp is bp look at the serial.these watches are bp/vrf
made from 904

Thanks, I was about to say the same!
At least it seems they corrected the lug angle by a few percent in the right direction.

 

[thinwhiteduke]

OFF TOPIC: How do these aggregator "factories" operate? I guess they source their parts from BP/VRF/etc and then slap them together. But why would the other factories sell them parts for them to become competition? Or am I missing something here?

I just coined that term "aggregator" to show that
1. GMF is not a factory like Noob or BP;
2. As such, it's unlikely they invested in heavy machinery to manufacture parts; and
3. They buy what they think is best from other factories and slap them together, a la VRF business model. Or ARF for that matter. I did mention that these GMF subs are listed under the ARF webpage of TS. Click here: https://www.tswatch01.com/mobile/products.php?CateId=891

And why?
You have to realize that even the "factories" like Noob buy parts from 3rd party suppliers. Why do you think they cannot duplicate their near-perfect V6s? They would have by now IF THEY MADE THEM IN-HOUSE.

Just logic, IMHO. I could be wrong.

 

[FarewellFire]

I just coined that term "aggregator" to show that
1. GMF is not a factory like Noob or BP;
2. As such, it's unlikely they invested in heavy machinery to manufacture parts; and
3. They buy what they think is best from other factories and slap them together, a la VRF business model. Or ARF for that matter. I did mention that these GMF subs are listed under the ARF webpage of TS. Click here: https://www.tswatch01.com/mobile/products.php?CateId=891

And why?
You have to realize that even the "factories" like Noob buy parts from 3rd party suppliers. Why do you think they cannot duplicate their near-perfect V6s? They would have by now IF THEY MADE THEM IN-HOUSE.

Just logic, IMHO. I could be wrong.

Ah, of course! Didn't think about that actually. So these guys basically talk to the people that, say, Noob initially ordered a bezel from and then just buy the same thing from them. Of course. For a moment there I thought that Noob themseves would hawk their own parts to an aggregator but that of course wouldn´t make any sense whatsoever. Thanks!