ZF Calatrava is out

[Cheeps]

BIONONE explained it very well. I can't explain it better, as i have never tried a ziczac strap. Because i'm based in Europe i don't want the long waiting time and risk of paying customs delaying it further etc. So i normally choose either Jacobstraps (Spain), Camille Fournet (France) and Jean Rousseau (France). You can really tell why Breguet, Patek Phillippe, Jaeger-LeCoultre, MB & F and other high end brands use CF as their supplier of straps. The quality is unique. What you get is a strap that lifts the rep to a level its hard to question wether its a rep.

Just FYI: I’m based in Germany and ordered twice from ziczac already. Shipping took around 7 business days each time and the package had a sticker on it which said “duty free”.

 

[BIONONE]

Just FYI: I’m based in Germany and ordered twice from ziczac already. Shipping took around 7 business days each time and the package had a sticker on it which said “duty free”.

i think the point was also once the german customs go nuts on you for importing unregistered exotic leather goods you don't want to deal a second time with this hassle.

i think EU based strap makers are awesome - which doesn't mean asian straps or straps outside of the EU are less preferable. But customs and regulations are a relevant point when ordering such things.

 

[jm_brc_7057]

Just FYI: I’m based in Germany and ordered twice from ziczac already. Shipping took around 7 business days each time and the package had a sticker on it which said “duty free”.

Thank you mate. How long will they take to make the strap? How is the quality.

 

[Xabo]

jm_brc_7057 Cheeps Oh man, I love this community everybody is so dedicated and helpful! I´m located in Europe(Germany) as well. I see the thing with waiting time and I fell in love with the CF straps anyways, so probably I gonna go for them.
On the other side $50 bucks for a custom made croco strap seems also fair, so I will give it a shot. Thank you so much guys!

 

[jm_brc_7057]

jm_brc_7057 Cheeps Oh man, I love this community everybody is so dedicated and helpful! I´m located in Europe(Germany) as well. I see the thing with waiting time and I fell in love with the CF straps anyways, so probably I gonna go for them.
On the other side $50 bucks for a custom made croco strap seems also fair, so I will give it a shot. Thank you so much guys!

Jacobstraps will make you a custom handmade for around 160 euro. He takes around 4-5 weeks to make the strap and delivery with DHL is <24 hours (not kidding).

 

[Tobel]

jm_brc_7057 Cheeps Oh man, I love this community everybody is so dedicated and helpful! I´m located in Europe(Germany) as well. I see the thing with waiting time and I fell in love with the CF straps anyways, so probably I gonna go for them.
On the other side $50 bucks for a custom made croco strap seems also fair, so I will give it a shot. Thank you so much guys!

I've tried ziczac and while they re a step up compared to rep straps, it's clearly not at the level of a Jacob strap, and even less of a CF. If you really want the gen like quality go for CF. If you want something that is already premium then Jacob is a good deal. Just my opinion of course

 

[jm_brc_7057]

I've tried ziczac and while they re a step up compared to rep straps, it's clearly not at the level of a Jacob strap, and even less of a CF. If you really want the gen like quality go for CF. If you want something that is already premium then Jacob is a good deal. Just my opinion of course

Great input there. Thanks for clarifying that. Just what i thought, but needed to be confirmed...

 

[Xabo]

I've tried ziczac and while they re a step up compared to rep straps, it's clearly not at the level of a Jacob strap, and even less of a CF. If you really want the gen like quality go for CF. If you want something that is already premium then Jacob is a good deal. Just my opinion of course

Thanks mate. I think I go than for CF. 50 bucks more for the gen like quality should be worth it at this level.


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[Tobel]

Thanks mate. I think I go than for CF. 50 bucks more for the gen like quality should be worth it at this level.


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Only 50 bucks difference? I'm surprised. Last time I checked Jacob was more like 100 or 150 euros, CF was 250 for ready to wear and 300 for custom. Has that changed?

 

[Xabo]

Only 50 bucks difference? I'm surprised. Last time I checked Jacob was more like 100 or 150 euros, CF was 250 for ready to wear and 300 for custom. Has that changed?

You are right. I just confound Jean Rosseau with Jacobstraps.

As far as I see it is like this:

Jacob: 143 €

Jean Rosseau: 210 €

CF: 258 € (and by far the biggest choice)

Sorry for spreading false information mate!

 

[Tobel]

You are right. I just confound Jean Rosseau with Jacobstraps.

As far as I see it is like this:

Jacob: 143 €

Jean Rosseau: 210 €

CM: 258 € (and by far the biggest choice)

Sorry for spreading false information mate!

Aha non worries, it would have been good news if CF had dropped their prices too bad!

 

[gilrob]

Panatime has the RIOS1931 straps for Patek Philippe watches, $182.99. Worth taking a look at.

 

[jm_brc_7057]

You are right. I just confound Jean Rosseau with Jacobstraps.

As far as I see it is like this:

Jacob: 143 €

Jean Rosseau: 210 €

CF: 258 € (and by far the biggest choice)

Sorry for spreading false information mate!

230 euro * for Camille Fournet for a standard, not customized strap (=258 USD)

 

[SpootyPuff]

Has anyone picked up the sector dials yet?

 

[Karlus]

Has anyone picked up the sector dials yet?

Im concerned because the dial does not look like it has the correct silver fields...could be wrong

 

[majwilliams0308]

I got my ZF Sector dial, compared it with my gen dial - gen dial has a finer 'silver' pattern, and grabs WAY more light. ZF's looks like just a white dial in the shade. Gen dial's logo isn't as crisp as ZF though :rofl:

Gen dial in same sunlight:

Comparison vid (really shows the differences well)
https://imgur.com/sJqqdhw

 

[jm_brc_7057]

majwilliams0308 great pictures and video. Really shows the difference. And it's actually huge. Not every day we get such a comparison.
Fantastic you got the gen dial! You are the King of gen dials

 

[Xabo]

Gen dial's logo isn't as crisp as ZF though :rofl:

https://imgur.com/sJqqdhw

Amazing comparison! How the heck does it come that the ZF dial is superior in the logo?

 

[christo14]

I got my ZF Sector dial, compared it with my gen dial - gen dial has a finer 'silver' pattern, and grabs WAY more light. ZF's looks like just a white dial in the shade. Gen dial's logo isn't as crisp as ZF though :rofl:

Comparison vid (really shows the differences well)
https://imgur.com/sJqqdhw

Excellent video. Really demonstrates the difference between the dials. I'm not sure it will stop me purchasing as the sector dial calatrava is one of my grail watches.

Also noticed in your vid the colour of the blue hands when the sunlight hits them. Actually looks great

 

[SpootyPuff]

majwilliams0308 Thanks for the pics and vid!! Certainly harder to make up my mind getting this.
Are there any circumstances that show the gray-silvery sections of the rep dial more?
Or is it mostly just plain white with a hint of the gray/silver in limited angles?