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{*PCTeam*} XF PAM684 Pictorial Review

mysterio

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In my monumental fifth review for this series, I am posting an eagerly awaited rep. ;) This review is so fresh, the watch isn't out yet. :lmao: But I guess this might whet your appetites a little and maybe even get some feedback. Here is my review of the...

Luminor 1950 Submersible 3 Days Automatic Oro Rosso 42mm PAM 684
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The PAM684 was just recently announced in January during the SIHH (Salon International de la Haute Horlogerie Genève) exhibition along with its stainless steel twin. the PAM682. While its more tame brethren got some attention, because Risti had been requesting Officine Panerai to come up with a smaller submersible, even smaller than the existing 44mm PAM243, PAM064 and PAM087, the PAM684, I think stole the limelight. It is a 42mm Submersible like the PAM682, but that's where the similarity ends. The PAM682, made of steel, and is water resistance up to 300m, the PAM684 is a nice little number with a Red Gold case and a ceramic bezel (ala PAM389) and is only water resistant up to 100m. Both are powered by the P.9010 movement, now ably copied cosmetically by the A7750 movement with the balance wheel @11, and glued on decorative plates. Some of this review might copy some of the text from the XF PAM682 as they are so alike. So let's begin, shall we?

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Dial - Same as with the PAM682, with black dial with the LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE text at 12 o'clock and the PANERAI Automatic text at 6 o'clock. Circular hour markers for the majority of the dial with 1 and 2 stick markers at 6 and 12 o'clock respectively. Seconds subdial but instead of the usual characteristic blue seconds hand for P.9010 equipped watches, the PAM684 tries to differentiate itself with a gold subdial hand.
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Crown and crown guard - Nicely executed crown guard, with the slight chamfers at the sides of the half-moon shape, same as gen (not as prominent as on larger submersibles but it is there). REG T.M. engraving is nicely done and lever pin placement is same as gen. Crown is a bit skinny but it looks like same as the gen (since it's smaller to match a 42mm watch).
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Bezel - Bezel is nicely brushed with the black ceramic insert. The bezel minute markers from 0-15 are sharp and legible but in a different color (might be patinated) and the circular hour markers aren't prominent nor are they sunk on the bezel. Slight chamfer on both top and bottom sides of the bezel, not as prominent as on bigger subs but it looks like the same as the gen. The cut is clean and it exposes the shiny polished edge underneath which now complements instead of countering the polished red gold steel case.
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Case - Well done case, polished red gold plated stainless steel with longer lugs which is expected for P.9010 based movement watches. The case has the screw in lug change system for the PAM684, same as on gen (the PAM682 has the quick release system ones, in comparison).
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Movement - It is the new P.9010 movement which in reality is just the A7750 with decorative plates glued on to make it look like the gen P.9010. Fortunately, the placement of the balance wheel for the A7750 is at the same location for the gen movement, which is @11. No misspellings as well so let's be thankful. :D
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Caseback - The caseback is made of the same material as the case, red gold and has all of the markings, even the chemical composition of the gold used in the watch (well gen anyway :lol: ) Now there is a missing detail and a point of contention. Both the gen PAM682 and PAM684 technically have not yet been released by Panerai. So the factory copied the only available reference, which is the prototype watch. However, being a prototype, this particular watch was devoid of any serial number and millesimation. What would you guys prefer, the prototype caseback or one with serial number and millesimation which most likely will be used on the production watches? (TXXXX/1000 for the PAM682 and TXXX/250 for the PAM684)?
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Lume - This recently had been a discussion item with the first batch of PAM682s which had the uniform green lume to match the first picture uploaded by OP in their website. Now it has been updated to show that the P.9010 based submersibles will henceforth have blue lume on the lume pip and the minute hand. Naturally such improvements would be coming out for the PAM684 as well. So some lume shots in a bit of shade and in total darkness.
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So in conclusion, the XF PAM684 looks to be every bit as interesting as the XF PAM682 from those who have been waiting for a 42mm submersible to arrive. With fit and finish every bit as good as the other factory releases, this watch at the very least deserves your serious consideration. Same as its stainless steel brother, this PAM684 is definitely at least a first-class rep medium class if we're going to consider the movement (it's very good but it's not 1:1 to gen), maybe even bordering on super rep class.

Parting shot of the twins, I'm sure some of you will get both (I am also seriously considering it :lol:).
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I hope you've enjoyed the review. Thanks for looking! :)
 

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Omg it is out already?

That is very fast man!

Thank you @mysterio for the awesome review.

U sure are on a spree on writing fantastic reviews. Lol.
 

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Thx man
Great review, seriously considering this one


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Sparky28

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As per usual,great review m8,
I would prefer the serial & millesimation on the case back,
Im buying one cos my Mrs has fallen in love with it so it could be the start of her very own collection of reps,[emoji6]


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I don't think I'd ever pull out a gold watch but if I were to, this would be a contender.
Very nice rep with only minor differences with the gen, the most visible being the too dark minute markers on the bezel as you mentioned, CG lever too distant from the case and bezel pips that look just a fraction too big to me (but maybe it's just the reflections).
Thanks for sharing this review :)
 

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How about Pam684 with green strap. Pam677 with green look Nice.

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I waiting for Side By Side with Gen SS


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Pulled the trigger knowing that plated red gold is gonna look terrible in a few months.
If only 682 also have ceramic insert XD.
 

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Pulled the trigger knowing that plated red gold is gonna look terrible in a few months.
If only 682 also have ceramic insert XD.

I don't know about that. My PAM FER00006 which was last produced in 2008, I think, still looks good.
 

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The gold wont fade. All gold plated reps are very good now. It will only come off it you ding it on a brick wall or something
 

Sparky28

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I don't know about that. My PAM FER00006 which was last produced in 2008, I think, still looks good.

Does the watch look as good as it did when you first bought it?
Interesting to know that the plating technique is robust/long lasting.
I'm considering buying one of these for the wife but I was planning on investigating the best ways to clean/protect the plating first


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Now the rosegold watches is very good. As Long every time u wear it make sure you wipe it. On sunny day don't wear the rosegold because you will sweat easily and there u go your rosegold. Use it or special occasion or wedding with your loved one. HahA


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Does the watch look as good as it did when you first bought it?
Interesting to know that the plating technique is robust/long lasting.
I'm considering buying one of these for the wife but I was planning on investigating the best ways to clean/protect the plating first


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Actually, just got it this year. But the watch has not been in production ever since its initial release. At least that's what I got from the TDs I asked. But the watch does look like the plating has held up well.
 

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I really felt in love with this panerai.
but I'm not sure about the whole case construction. to me, this rep seems to be too fat (maybe because of the A7750). Bezel, caseback and the crystal are not like the gen.
There is also the crystal distortion.
Overall, the rep looks too fat. The gen has nice proportions and looks well balanced.

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Good catch on the crystal distortion, did not notice that. However, let's see if the production model maintains this clarity. Historically, even gen PAMs with the non-dome shape have this distinct distortion when viewed at an angle because of the slight difference in the crystal thickness (thicker at the center compared to the edges).
 

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Apparently caseback is not sapphire, a common occurrence in XF models.
I don't know, some people care about it. I can live with it personally.
 
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