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8500 Clone Movement Rotor Moving When Winding (VIDEO)

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    8500 Clone Movement Rotor Moving When Winding (VIDEO)

    Hey all,

    This might serve as a big PSA to anyone interested in buying this watch.

    I have two of these in hand. It's happening to one of them a lot worse than the other (PO), and the other one (AT) is starting to show the same. Basically, both watches are having this issue.

    Watches work great, and hold perfect time, I'm not losing many seconds per day. I understand that the rotor can spin and it will still wind the springs. I can still wind it and get it going. If I wind it slowly, the rotor catches. If I wind it quickly, with a little bit of speed, I can wind it how it is supposed to be. You can hear it sometimes winding normally in the video, and you can clearly see when the rotor catches.

    According to my research, it seems like it could be an issue with the lubrication on the reversing wheel, as noted in this thread for a GENUINE Omega:

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/ro...ad-451314.html

    I'm not too disappointed, because the watches are fantastic, but I am worried how much it might cost to service, whether it's on me or my TD, the fact that I have two more on the way, and who would actually be willing to work on this movement so soon.


    At the beginning, I go slowly to show the rotor catching, then I give it a few spins with speed and it winds how it should, maybe a little too much friction.


    #2
    I had this issue on a genuine ETA 2836, it was a very quick and cheap fix for a watchsmith.

    Obviously I cannot say for sure it’s the same problem as it’s a different movement but it showed exactly the same symptoms.


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      #3
      That's a sure symptom of a poorly lubricated automatic winding module- you should have it attended to asap. It should be relatively cheap to do, as the service can be done without removing the movement from the case.


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        #4
        Damn...

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          #5
          Originally posted by Swerepguy View Post
          Damn...
          I wouldn't let this dissuade you from buying the watch, that post I linked from WatchUSeek was with a genuine Omega having the same issue.

          I'm going to go ahead and see what my TD says, source a watch-smith locally to attempt to repair it, and report back.

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            #6
            Watchmaker here. Super quick fix, and yes, it's just lube. The autowind comes apart without disassembling the whole movement, you don't need a whole service to correct it. It's something we test before it leaves the bench, apparently the Chinese are pushing these out the door.

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              #7
              Originally posted by amplitude View Post
              Watchmaker here. Super quick fix, and yes, it's just lube. The autowind comes apart without disassembling the whole movement, you don't need a whole service to correct it. It's something we test before it leaves the bench, apparently the Chinese are pushing these out the door.
              If you dont fix this problem but not winding the watch, is it going to break or is this just a winding problem?

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                #8
                Originally posted by amplitude View Post
                Watchmaker here. Super quick fix, and yes, it's just lube. The autowind comes apart without disassembling the whole movement, you don't need a whole service to correct it. It's something we test before it leaves the bench, apparently the Chinese are pushing these out the door.
                I hope so. I’ve done a bunch of looking and it seemingly happens to Gen Omegas, Gen Swiss ETA, reps, name it. I’m just concerned if the watchmaker will not want to work on this “Superclone” movement, or even replicas for that matter.

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                  #9
                  Brought it to a watch smith and he noticed the rotor moving, but told me it was totally fine how it is, and didn’t want to work on it.

                  He advised me to just wind it 4-5 times when I wear it and run it.

                  BS? Or?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mikenike View Post
                    Brought it to a watch smith and he noticed the rotor moving, but told me it was totally fine how it is, and didn’t want to work on it.

                    He advised me to just wind it 4-5 times when I wear it and run it.

                    BS? Or?
                    He a might Be afraid of destroying a movement he doesn't know anything about.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Swerepguy View Post

                      He a might Be afraid of destroying a movement he doesn't know anything about.
                      Right on, I just got a second opinion.

                      Second shop saw the issue, took it in, will get an estimate. Hopefully not too bad. I don’t know what I should expect. Any ideas how much this should cost?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Swerepguy View Post

                        He a might Be afraid of destroying a movement he doesn't know anything about.
                        Nah, it really isn't a big deal. If it was spinning totally when you wind, it would demand attention, but just a little movement won't really hurt it.

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                          #13
                          And I just watched your video. Just go get the autowind taken care of. I thought it was a little wiggle. It's still no big deal though

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by amplitude View Post
                            And I just watched your video. Just go get the autowind taken care of. I thought it was a little wiggle. It's still no big deal though

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                            If you don't fix this problem but still use the watch but not winding it. Can the movement get gamaged or is just when winding it?

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                              #15
                              Interested in that too

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