It worked! As always: thanks very much. Aren't forums the coolest. Incidentally, the reason for removing the second hand was aesthetic/practical. The face is quite difficult to read at the best of times--all silver surfaces, and my wife's eyesight isn't the greatest. On top of that, the Chanel face has a second hand that is both quite large, and has two ends. All that complicated the face. Now it is simply easier to read the time--which is apparently what this is all about in the first place