I bought a decent rep of an ALS Grand Arkade (sp?) dress watch in rose gold several years back, and it's really pretty accurate, all except for the usual flaw: the date window at the top is much smaller than that of the gen. Otherwise a good-looking watch that only a true ALS aficianado would spot as a rep. As for the others, I also have a Lange 1 moonphase but, as others point out, you just can't adapt off the shelf movements to ALS watches so the small subdial that on the gen is for running seconds is on mine a 24-hour military time recorder. Also, the case is noticeably larger and thicker than that of the gen. But if you want a ALS "approximation", it's not tht bad, still a handsome piece. I got mine probably 4 years ago, but I think watcheden has something similar.