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    #61
    majwilliams0308 true that. I dont quite get it
    its like they dont wanna put the effort in to the ALS reps.
    The tourbillon of the IWC 5463 and the Portuguese Mystere, and also the 14 day power reserve vacheron constantin tourbillon are decorated to perfectly look like the gen. It could've been done with this ALS rep too by making the sabre different, fixing it with silver instead of blue screws and putting a seconds hand on top. Instead they just used the seagull without touching it at all.
    Collection: Audemars Piguet Royal Oak (FOR SALE) - Breguet Tradition 7057 - Montblanc Heritage Spirit Orbis Terrarum Unicef Ltd. Ed. - Patek 5070P Saatchi London Ltd. Edi. - Patek 5205G - Patek 5227G - Patek 5296R - Patek Pilot 5524G - Patek 5975R Multiscale Chrono - Patek 6102R Celestial Moon Age - Rolex Hulk - VC Traditionnelle Small Seconds - VC Chronometre Royal 1907 - Incoming: VC Traditionelle Tourbillon

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      #62
      This is my baby on a stunning strap too. So difficult getting the gorgeous rose gold right with a photo.



      Regards,

      triker.
      [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]WANTED NOW
      A nice quality Tourbillon. If you can help, please PM me.
      [/COLOR]

      Was dealing reps in Baghdad, when most were still in Dad's bag!

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        #63
        triker really nice wristey. Great strap. Stylish combi. May I ask what strap it is and who you bought it from? Thanks mate.
        Collection: Audemars Piguet Royal Oak (FOR SALE) - Breguet Tradition 7057 - Montblanc Heritage Spirit Orbis Terrarum Unicef Ltd. Ed. - Patek 5070P Saatchi London Ltd. Edi. - Patek 5205G - Patek 5227G - Patek 5296R - Patek Pilot 5524G - Patek 5975R Multiscale Chrono - Patek 6102R Celestial Moon Age - Rolex Hulk - VC Traditionnelle Small Seconds - VC Chronometre Royal 1907 - Incoming: VC Traditionelle Tourbillon

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          #64
          jm_brc_7057
          Hi,
          yes the strap suits the watch superbly, gets nothing but truly admiring questions and never been asked the age old rep questions.
          The strap is an Orlof make - it is soft, subtle and gorgeous to look at and the colours are stunning.

          Hope it helps.

          Kind Regards

          triker.
          [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]WANTED NOW
          A nice quality Tourbillon. If you can help, please PM me.
          [/COLOR]

          Was dealing reps in Baghdad, when most were still in Dad's bag!

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            #65
            Originally posted by triker View Post
            jm_brc_7057
            Hi,
            yes the strap suits the watch superbly, gets nothing but truly admiring questions and never been asked the age old rep questions.
            The strap is an Orlof make - it is soft, subtle and gorgeous to look at and the colours are stunning.

            Hope it helps.

            Kind Regards

            triker.
            Thanks mate. I've sent him an e-mail.
            Collection: Audemars Piguet Royal Oak (FOR SALE) - Breguet Tradition 7057 - Montblanc Heritage Spirit Orbis Terrarum Unicef Ltd. Ed. - Patek 5070P Saatchi London Ltd. Edi. - Patek 5205G - Patek 5227G - Patek 5296R - Patek Pilot 5524G - Patek 5975R Multiscale Chrono - Patek 6102R Celestial Moon Age - Rolex Hulk - VC Traditionnelle Small Seconds - VC Chronometre Royal 1907 - Incoming: VC Traditionelle Tourbillon

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              #66
              Originally posted by triker View Post
              This is my baby on a stunning strap too. So difficult getting the gorgeous rose gold right with a photo.



              Regards,

              triker.
              I really miss that one.

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                #67
                Some factory rep another version...
                https://imgur.com/a/hHL8nn4

                a lot thicker (13.9mm), size 41mm
                not a real tourbillon but looks quite good.

                video
                https://v.qq.com/x/page/i3028hdjyux.html

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by xpresso View Post
                  Some factory rep another version...
                  https://imgur.com/a/hHL8nn4

                  a lot thicker (13.9mm), size 41mm
                  not a real tourbillon but looks quite good.

                  video
                  https://v.qq.com/x/page/i3028hdjyux.html
                  What factory is this, buddy? Which TD has it? It is a real tourbillon mate. You can see it spinning around in the video you sent.
                  Last edited by jm_brc_7057; 04-12-19, 09:14.
                  Collection: Audemars Piguet Royal Oak (FOR SALE) - Breguet Tradition 7057 - Montblanc Heritage Spirit Orbis Terrarum Unicef Ltd. Ed. - Patek 5070P Saatchi London Ltd. Edi. - Patek 5205G - Patek 5227G - Patek 5296R - Patek Pilot 5524G - Patek 5975R Multiscale Chrono - Patek 6102R Celestial Moon Age - Rolex Hulk - VC Traditionnelle Small Seconds - VC Chronometre Royal 1907 - Incoming: VC Traditionelle Tourbillon

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jm_brc_7057 View Post

                    What factory is this, buddy? Which TD has it? It is a real tourbillon mate. You can see it spinning around in the video you sent.
                    Some "no-name" factory, I saw that on a wechat dealer.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by xpresso View Post

                      Some "no-name" factory, I saw that on a wechat dealer.
                      Incredibly well made. I'm asking around if any TD has it.
                      it doesn't look too thick. If you note the gen is relatively thick for its 39.5mm (11.1mm thickness). Therefore for a 41mm the 13.9mm thickness can do in my opinion. Also I dont think it's a catastrophe if a tourbillon watch is a tad thick. It looks balanced.
                      incredibly well decorated tourbillon with correct sabre and screw color. Nice that it has brushed sides with lugs being polished on the sides too.
                      The seconds hand is mounted on top of the tourbillon. I think this is giving the watch the extra millimeters. In the old version there wasnt space beneath the crystal to mount it. So they have made it a bit thicker. Acceptable compromise I think.
                      Last edited by jm_brc_7057; 04-12-19, 16:01.
                      Collection: Audemars Piguet Royal Oak (FOR SALE) - Breguet Tradition 7057 - Montblanc Heritage Spirit Orbis Terrarum Unicef Ltd. Ed. - Patek 5070P Saatchi London Ltd. Edi. - Patek 5205G - Patek 5227G - Patek 5296R - Patek Pilot 5524G - Patek 5975R Multiscale Chrono - Patek 6102R Celestial Moon Age - Rolex Hulk - VC Traditionnelle Small Seconds - VC Chronometre Royal 1907 - Incoming: VC Traditionelle Tourbillon

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by jm_brc_7057 View Post

                        Incredibly well made. I'm asking around if any TD has it.
                        it doesn't look too thick. If you note the gen is relatively thick for its 39.5mm (11.1mm thickness). Therefore for a 41mm the 13.9mm thickness can do in my opinion. Also I dont think it's a catastrophe if a tourbillon watch is a tad thick. It looks balanced.
                        incredibly well decorated tourbillon with correct sabre and screw color. Nice that it has brushed sides with lugs being polished on the sides too.
                        The seconds hand is mounted on top of the tourbillon. I think this is giving the watch the extra millimeters. In the old version there wasnt space beneath the crystal to mount it. So they have made it a bit thicker. Acceptable compromise I think.
                        Yeah agreed on the size.

                        I'm going to ask Spongebob if he thinks he can thin it by 2mm or so if we remove the back decorative plate. I am willing to sacrifice an undecorated back for a 12mm tourbillon. This is probably the best Lange rep we've got so far.

                        Here is a quick comparison:



                        Notable differences:
                        - Obviously case size (39.5 x 11.1 vs 41 x 13.9)
                        - Center pinion cap is smaller on rep
                        - "Made in Germany" print is slightly smaller on gen
                        - Tourbillon hole cut on dial is slightly below center pinion on gen, on the rep it goes all the way up to the pinion.
                        - Watch hand gear at top of tourbillon hole is smaller, but I believe that is due to the cutout of the tourbillon hole
                        - Seconds hand: Rep does not extend to the outer ring of the circle, and the balance is shorter on the back end of it
                        - Balance bridge is wider on gen
                        - Crown is slightly bigger on rep

                        Good things:
                        - Dial print and font look good (though rep isn't as bold slightly)
                        - Tourbillon overall looks really similar
                        - Case shape is good
                        - Hour and minute hands look good
                        - Surprising: the bottom of the tourbillon cutout lines up with the dial the same as gen.
                        Last edited by majwilliams0308; 04-12-19, 17:34.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by majwilliams0308 View Post
                          Notable differences:
                          - Obviously case size (39.5 x 11.1 vs 41 x 13.9)
                          - Center pinion cap is smaller on rep
                          - "Made in Germany" print is slightly smaller on gen
                          - Tourbillon hole cut on dial is slightly below center pinion on gen, on the rep it goes all the way up to the pinion.
                          - Watch hand gear at top of tourbillon hole is smaller, but I believe that is due to the cutout of the tourbillon hole
                          - Seconds hand: Rep does not extend to the outer ring of the circle, and the balance is shorter on the back end of it
                          - Balance bridge is wider on gen
                          - Crown is slightly bigger on rep

                          Good things:
                          - Dial print and font look good (though rep isn't as bold slightly)
                          - Tourbillon overall looks really similar
                          - Case shape is good
                          - Hour and minute hands look good
                          Thanks mate for taking your time making this excellent analysis. Appreciated. I just got an update from Trusty. He can't get it. He says it will be replicated sometime later. I'm not sure if it's because it hasn't been released yet. This maybe a prototype. I'm awaiting answer from Watchfinder.

                          Regarding the thickness i will say much of it will be buried in the wrist, as the back case is sloped and rests below the lugs, the part i've marked:



                          I don't see it being thick on the wrist.
                          Last edited by jm_brc_7057; 04-12-19, 21:33.
                          Collection: Audemars Piguet Royal Oak (FOR SALE) - Breguet Tradition 7057 - Montblanc Heritage Spirit Orbis Terrarum Unicef Ltd. Ed. - Patek 5070P Saatchi London Ltd. Edi. - Patek 5205G - Patek 5227G - Patek 5296R - Patek Pilot 5524G - Patek 5975R Multiscale Chrono - Patek 6102R Celestial Moon Age - Rolex Hulk - VC Traditionnelle Small Seconds - VC Chronometre Royal 1907 - Incoming: VC Traditionelle Tourbillon

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                            #73
                            Despite the fact that the tourbillion is better replicated on this one (nice sabres, correct screw colors, mounted seconds hand), I find that the size ratio of the tourbillion hole vs the dial, and the hole position looks off, and the crown is way too much offcenter. This gives it an overall wrong look IMO even from a quick glance, even if the minute details on tourbillion are better executed.

                            It's also worth noting that the old rep has an incredibly high quality dial that has a kind of soft shimmer to it that simply can't be photographed, which makes it one of the best looking dials I've ever seen - rep or gen. It's impossible to know if this rep has that same kind of dial until we see it in person.
                            Last edited by KilowattHour; 09-12-19, 03:03.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by KilowattHour View Post
                              Despite the fact that the tourbillion is better replicated on this one (nice sabres, correct screw colors, mounted seconds hand), I find that the size ratio of the tourbillion hole vs the dial, and the hole position looks off, and the crown is way too much offcenter. This gives it an overall wrong look IMO even from a quick glance, even if the minute details on tourbillion are better executed.

                              It's also worth noting that the old rep has an incredibly high quality dial that has a kind of soft shimmer to it that simply can't be photographed, which makes it one of the best looking dials I've ever seen - rep or gen. It's impossible to know if this rep has that same kind of dial until we see it in person.
                              I got excited for a couple of seconds when I saw it for the fist time but then I did notice how weird is the cut out for the tourby - it does look out of proportion.
                              another thing is case thickness - I don’t see myself how I could wear it as a dress watch. I know gen is thick but this is tuna fish can thick.
                              they should putt second hand and longer arms on the old version but I’m guessing it was made by different factory.

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                                #75
                                Just watched that video - cut out looks huge and
                                its almost as think as Panerai Bettarini case.

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