APSF and ZF Royal Oak 15500 w 4302 clone caliber

[steve_theonewatches]

Hi everyone, this is Steve. In the last couple of days ZF has updated the AP Royal Oak 15500 to V3 and we got the watch on our hands and took some HD photos.

The factory has not given any clear information on the upgrade, but as far as we can see, it is mainly a movement upgrade;

the ZF V2 has a Miyota 9015 and the V3 version has been replaced with a 4302 all-in-one movement, the same movement as the APS 15500 V2 version.

As you can see, the position of ZF V3 balance wheel has changed and is as the same as APS V2, the GEN is in about the same position! So the similarity of the back of the movement has been improved.

The main thing is that the date of the 4302 movement changes instantly, whereas the 9015 movement is a long, slow jump.

In terms of colour, the black dial is still the most reproduced.

Let's look at the most loved blue dial, the ZF V3 has become a little darker and the color difference with the GEN has become smaller.

While the APS V2 version is too dark in blue. As for the whites and greys, both factories and the GEN are still off by some margin!

Well, that's it for today's share.

There is no perfect replica, only the one you like best

Have a great time here!


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[exacten]

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somethings never change maybe V4 will have the answer

 

[PAPA_WHALE]

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somethings never change maybe V4 will have the answer

I wonder if you can scrape off the two bars of an "E" to make it an "L"?
It does not seem like an engraving, but rather a print.
Maybe @legend can give us some input!

 

[PAPA_WHALE]

Hi everyone, this is Steve. In the last couple of days ZF has updated the AP Royal Oak 15500 to V3 and we got the watch on our hands and took some HD photos.

The factory has not given any clear information on the upgrade, but as far as we can see, it is mainly a movement upgrade;

the ZF V2 has a Miyota 9015 and the V3 version has been replaced with a 4302 all-in-one movement, the same movement as the APS 15500 V2 version.

As you can see, the position of ZF V3 balance wheel has changed and is as the same as APS V2, the GEN is in about the same position! So the similarity of the back of the movement has been improved.

The main thing is that the date of the 4302 movement changes instantly, whereas the 9015 movement is a long, slow jump.

In terms of colour, the black dial is still the most reproduced.

Let's look at the most loved blue dial, the ZF V3 has become a little darker and the color difference with the GEN has become smaller.

While the APS V2 version is too dark in blue. As for the whites and greys, both factories and the GEN are still off by some margin!

Well, that's it for today's share.

There is no perfect replica, only the one you like best

Have a great time here!

Upon further look I have discovered that ZF v3 date wheel numbers are closer to the right, compared to V2 ZF and APS V2.

 

[dogwood]

It's too bad the ZF has a spelling error on the movement... It's supposed to be THIRTY-TWO(32) JEWELS not THIRTY TWO(32) JEWEES... sigh... maybe they'll get it right on v4.

 

[Wacht]

Are the pizza hands fixed?

 

[QueTip]

Are the pizza hands fixed?

Wrong watch.

 

[dashindark]

How can ZF actually produce those batches with an obvious spelling error on its movement?

 

[Rman]

Looking forward to more detail and pricing.

 

[legend]

Let's look at the most loved blue dial, the ZF V3 has become a little darker and the color difference with the GEN has become smaller.

There are 2 things I will like to comment on/ask here:

1. What did you mean by an "all-in-one" movement?

2. When you try to illustrate that the ZF V3 dial has become darker with the above picture, you can see that everything about the watch is darker, including the color of the steel bezel, case etc. They are taken under different lightings. So the new dial may or may not be darker but that is not a proper way to illustrate the point and also, I also think that the ZF V2 dial is very good in terms of the color accuracy vs gen, and that the V3 needs to be assessed under equal lighting to determine the visual closeness vs gen. The gen color is also dynamic and changes under various lighting. I do agree that the ZF 15500 dial is a lot better than the APSF one (whatever color) in terms of tapisserie geometry and texture.

 

[ShiroTenshi]

1. What did you mean by an "all-in-one" movement?

Believe he meant "一体机芯" which is what dealers in china usually use to refer (rightly or wrongly) to movement without decor plates/true clone.

 

[legend]

Believe he meant "一体机芯" which is what dealers in china usually use to refer (rightly or wrongly) to movement without decor plates/true clone.

Thank you kindly for the explanation, that makes sense.

 

[legend]

I wonder if you can scrape off the two bars of an "E" to make it an "L"?
It does not seem like an engraving, but rather a print.
Maybe @legend can give us some input!

Actually that is a pretty smart suggestion and it may just work, if the letters are printed.

 

[Wacht]

How's the thickness?

 

[Dantona1984]

It shall be interesting and truly telling when somebody manages to do a side by side comparison.

It seems as first glance the only differences are the dial and the dreaded EE.

 

[exacten]

How can ZF actually produce those batches with an obvious spelling error on its movement?

same thing happened with the VC 4500V where it said SWSS made instead of swiss made on the back, and they had to pull it back to release with fix instead.

 

[Fettekatze]

To me it looks like the V2 and V3 blue dials are the same. Still a far cry from the gen though. The gen is more green and metallic.

https://i.imgur.com/W4kzeEY.jpg

 

[peterpl]

I reckon the ZF dial looks better than the APS.

If they are using the same movement all the ZF has to do is fix the spelling mistake when they officially release and I think we'd have a better version. Even their bracelet finishing and the edges look better to me.

ZF always made pretty good AP reps. APS is still newish to the game.

 

[Fervid]

The tapisserie dials for the ZF 15500's definitely have a lot more depth compared to the APS. Seems like the better choice of the two if you're not fussed about the JEWEES typo.

 

[legend]

The tapisserie dials for the ZF 15500's definitely have a lot more depth compared to the APS. Seems like the better choice of the two if you're not fussed about the JEWEES typo.

Both the ZF and APSF dials are nothing like the gen if you study them in detail. Having said that the ZF dial, like you said, is a lot better than the APSF one where tapisseries construction goes.