Ultimate Cartier Santos 100, anyone...

[lantis]

...opened their caseback and verify the movement?

Imagine the horror I got when my supposed to be ultimate Cartier Santos 100 arrived and opened the caseback:

Supposed to be movement (for reference only-- I didn't order from PureTime):

 

[Bonesey]

Just because it's not the same colour doesn't mean it's swiss. The rep makes will use whichever movements they can get their hands on at the time. It's a good chance that the dealer shots are from a final prototype or early release from the factory.

For what it's worth yours does look pretty much like a gen ETA movement. But it looks like a 2836 rather than a 2824.

 

[1kenny1kenny1]

the engraved version would be much better, but still this is one super REP !!!!!!

 

[lantis]

Just because it's not the same colour doesn't mean it's swiss. The rep makes will use whichever movements they can get their hands on at the time. It's a good chance that the dealer shots are from a final prototype or early release from the factory.

For what it's worth yours does look pretty much like a gen ETA movement. But it looks like a 2836 rather than a 2824.

It's true ETA, but let me ask you this: would you buy a Hublot v5 with stickered rotor or v6 with engraved rotor?

I guess you would go for the v6. But if you ordered a v6 and get a v5 rotor, what'll be your reaction? The movement was advertised as nickel plated engraved, and IMO it also makes that version the Ultimate version.

 

[watch.aholic]

Isn't it better to just stick with a Sellita SW 200-1 movement when buying this watch? That way you are guaranteed that you are getting a new swiss movement...Well almost since I've read that Sellita has been cloned too but it not as rampantly cloned as the ETA 2824.....

 

[mbjoer]

Surely here the issue is trade description.
If you are sold one thing and get something else and inferior, that is not good.

The suspicion is that dealers are more tempted to do this when the issue only gets discovered if the watch is opened.

Was this one drop-shipped, and what was the dealer's reaction when told about the issue?

 

[lantis]

Surely here the issue is trade description.
If you are sold one thing and get something else and inferior, that is not good.

The suspicion is that dealers are more tempted to do this when the issue only gets discovered if the watch is opened.

Was this one drop-shipped, and what was the dealer's reaction when told about the issue?

Yes it's drop-shipped, but there's a backstory that I can tell yet. The watch is already on its way back to China for refund.

 

[Bonesey]

It's true ETA, but let me ask you this: would you buy a Hublot v5 with stickered rotor or v6 with engraved rotor?

I guess you would go for the v6. But if you ordered a v6 and get a v5 rotor, what'll be your reaction? The movement was advertised as nickel plated engraved, and IMO it also makes that version the Ultimate version.

Yes but the Hublot has an display caseback where being able to see the rotor is a big deal. This has a close caseback where absolutely no one buy yourself is going to see it. Any sort of rotor decoration is purely incidental.

I wouldn't have bothered all the hassle of returning this watch just for a different rotor on it. Especially considering it's pretty much a verified ETA movement.

 

[lantis]

Yes but the Hublot has an display caseback where being able to see the rotor is a big deal. This has a close caseback where absolutely no one buy yourself is going to see it. Any sort of rotor decoration is purely incidental.

I wouldn't have bothered all the hassle of returning this watch just for a different rotor on it. Especially considering it's pretty much a verified ETA movement.

ah-- I would agree but as I said, there is a backstory story that I can't tell yet. Still, from my point of view, visible or not, it is an issue of trade description, as mjboer points out.

You may point out that there's a lot of description in some of the dealers' listings that are incorrect. Text description can be tolerated to an extent but if you provided a visual description (photos) then that's very different.

 

[Cee]

Did you get a replacement Santos yet lantis?

Looking on some of the dealers sites, they seem to have many different versions of the Santos/Ballon Bleu and charge a premium for a decorated rotor so I can see why you got annoyed over this.

What I would like to see is what the movement looks like from a genuine Cartier Santos/Ballon Bleu so I can compare the differences to the rep to see if it's worth paying extra.

Anyone know where I can find this?

Thanks!

 

[lantis]

Did you get a replacement Santos yet lantis?

Looking on some of the dealers sites, they seem to have many different versions of the Santos/Ballon Bleu and charge a premium for a decorated rotor so I can see why you got annoyed over this.

What I would like to see is what the movement looks like from a genuine Cartier Santos/Ballon Bleu so I can compare the differences to the rep to see if it's worth paying extra.

Anyone know where I can find this?

Thanks!

No I didn't ask for a replacement, I asked for a refund.

The backstory I revealed in my review of the dealer in RWG opcorn:

 

[Cee]

No I didn't ask for a replacement, I asked for a refund.

The backstory I revealed in my review of the dealer in RWG opcorn:

ooh interesting...link? opcorn:

 

[lantis]

here