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[Translation] Glashutte Senator Sixties detailed review gen vs rep comparison *PIX HEAVY*

yojj

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Hi, guys

As a part of my project here
https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/some-interesting-thing-i-can-do-for-you-guys.364098/

My first project can be found here
https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/big-5-of-factories-and-their-stories.364136/
and here (I accidentally posted twice)
https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/big-5-of-factories-and-their-stories.364137/

This would be my third project

This is a detailed review of the new GF Glashutte Senator Sixties 39-52-06-02-04, with lots of gen v. rep photos.

as usual, the original post link
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4825674458
they do have a video of the two watches side by side if anyone is interested, I have't figure out how to upload videos yet.

Enjoy!


First here, can you tell which is gen and which is rep?
pvJL1ZB.jpg


**answer, left is gen and right is rep, did you get it?

Now we start with the overall look, the rep is pretty much on point with the gen
M1Rn5ZW.jpg


under warm light, no discolouration (left rep right gen)
B5hxOyT.jpg


under cold light, no discolouration (left rep right gen)
R7bzgIj.jpg


natural light, no discolouration (left rep right gen)
YxJosRa.jpg


natural light on a angle, no discolouration (left rep right gen)
zEZjyCE.jpg


on the side you can see the case is pretty much the same (up rep bottom gen)
DeJJtRV.jpg

S10Rgwl.jpg


the structure of the case and lugs are very well made
pfSsvE6.jpg


the overall look of the movement of rep is similar to gen
Y6wH2qb.jpg


the rep has a gold wheel while gen has silver
4PwZ2DA.jpg


gen has a very beaultiful whirl on the wheel, too bad rep cannot do that
1TyqSjf.jpg


I think friends with sharp eye already spotted that, the rep is thicker than the gen (left gen right rep)
2mVi2LR.jpg


Let's dig into the movement

from the red line, we can tell that the case itself is the same size, the difference is the bottom lid
oAa8lWt.jpg


gen thickness is 10.12mm
nTozbkI.jpg


rep thickness is 11.65mm, 1.53mm thicker than the gen
kXgSjhs.jpg


actually 1.53mm difference is very hard to spot when on hand
kR9X4mt.jpg


Ok, let's dig down deeper
2F9n93k.jpg


an overview of the movement, the overall structure is roughly the same
WgkPgIN.jpg


you can see that the movement of the rep is thicker than the gen
rdZVvtf.jpg


once you take off the crown, you can see the rep has 2 water-resistance rubber, same as gen, shows a lot of work from the maker
oq8uWiw.jpg


the bottom lid overview, the structure and engraving are both done well
EWx0l5Q.jpg


however because the movement is thicker on the rep, the bottom lip has to be thicker as well
Fhuy7VZ.jpg


so how much thicker?
TpnZPuj.jpg


gen is 3.79mm
HgosBab.jpg


rep is 5.2mm, 1.41mm thicker than gen
jbTuo79.jpg


front view of the case, pretty much the same
XNGG3u5.jpg


45 degree angle, still no difference
IiOyx7M.jpg


lug is pretty much the same
sXHav9A.jpg


Let's measure the case, we can hardly see any difference here
iCH2uRU.jpg


gen is 6.77mm
oFvI7Rj.jpg


rep is 6.89mm, 0.12mm thicker than gen. We also measured bottom lid is 1.41mm thicker, so 1.41+0.12= 1.53mm, all matches
vzfEcNC.jpg


the crown is very well made, without label, you can hardly tell
f3DxQIr.jpg


all the grooves of rep matches the gen (left gen right rep)
JeFlmwP.jpg


the font, colour, and hands of rep pretty much matches the gen. The maker directly used gen to make the model, as you can see the gen's dial was damaged, shows the maker's sincerity
CCxo4Ek.jpg


same grove on markers on rep as gen
X1XyHEH.jpg


logo and font all matches up (up gen bottom rep)
rwjyp0i.jpg

zg4aach.jpg


Let's go even deeper now
UhhboJc.jpg

7RtlYaX.jpg


underneath is a seagull 2824, very reliable movement, low breakage rate
LecRpVd.jpg

RcsrcNj.jpg

y3ulNFq.jpg


the graving of the logo on the tang buckle is pretty much the same
TQRXtEw.jpg


Conclusion,
this is definitely a watch that is worth buying, in the front it can definitely said to be exactly the same as the gen, although 1.53mm thicker, it wouldn't feel much on hand, since the rep is only 11.56mm thick. If someone wears it on hand and show it to me, I can hardly tell gen from rep.

After the review I believe you all know a bit more about the back. As for rep watches, the movement is that hardest problem of all, especially when repping a self-made movement, the only way now is through decorated plate, such as Pam and AP.

We all wish rep to be better, and that is what we're working on. However, sometime we have to take a step back and understand the many difficulties, not only the movement but also the cost. When you think about the price you pay for this and for the gen, you should be pretty happy.

Pros:
1. extremely high front similarity, no matter natural, cold, warm light, super high standard
2. dial, font, letter details are on point
3. the dome glass(?) is very similar to gen in its curve

Cons:
1. 1.53mm thicker than gen
2. the whirl effect could not be replicated

Thank you all for reading, I have more images but I cannot post more since the 50 images limit.

Hope you enjoyed.
 

WingNut

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Thanks for the effort...

Too much for me...but I love mine...

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mbjoer

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I noted that they almost even nailed the gold versions. The watch case has all the correct hallmarks and markings - But the clasp still says Stainless Steel.
Rats!
 

yojj

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I noted that they almost even nailed the gold versions. The watch case has all the correct hallmarks and markings - But the clasp still says Stainless Steel.
Rats!
Oh that was a silly mistake LOL
 

suiiuris

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Thank you for the awesome review. It makes me wanna buy this watch (in at least two colour versions :)

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RolieBoy

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2/9/16
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Hi, guys

As a part of my project here
https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/some-interesting-thing-i-can-do-for-you-guys.364098/

My first project can be found here
https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/big-5-of-factories-and-their-stories.364136/
and here (I accidentally posted twice)
https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/big-5-of-factories-and-their-stories.364137/

This would be my third project

This is a detailed review of the new GF Glashutte Senator Sixties 39-52-06-02-04, with lots of gen v. rep photos.

as usual, the original post link
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4825674458
they do have a video of the two watches side by side if anyone is interested, I have't figure out how to upload videos yet.

Enjoy!


First here, can you tell which is gen and which is rep?
pvJL1ZB.jpg


**answer, left is gen and right is rep, did you get it?

Now we start with the overall look, the rep is pretty much on point with the gen
M1Rn5ZW.jpg


under warm light, no discolouration (left rep right gen)
B5hxOyT.jpg


under cold light, no discolouration (left rep right gen)
R7bzgIj.jpg


natural light, no discolouration (left rep right gen)
YxJosRa.jpg


natural light on a angle, no discolouration (left rep right gen)
zEZjyCE.jpg


on the side you can see the case is pretty much the same (up rep bottom gen)
DeJJtRV.jpg

S10Rgwl.jpg


the structure of the case and lugs are very well made
pfSsvE6.jpg


the overall look of the movement of rep is similar to gen
Y6wH2qb.jpg


the rep has a gold wheel while gen has silver
4PwZ2DA.jpg


gen has a very beaultiful whirl on the wheel, too bad rep cannot do that
1TyqSjf.jpg


I think friends with sharp eye already spotted that, the rep is thicker than the gen (left gen right rep)
2mVi2LR.jpg


Let's dig into the movement

from the red line, we can tell that the case itself is the same size, the difference is the bottom lid
oAa8lWt.jpg


gen thickness is 10.12mm
nTozbkI.jpg


rep thickness is 11.65mm, 1.53mm thicker than the gen
kXgSjhs.jpg


actually 1.53mm difference is very hard to spot when on hand
kR9X4mt.jpg


Ok, let's dig down deeper
2F9n93k.jpg


an overview of the movement, the overall structure is roughly the same
WgkPgIN.jpg


you can see that the movement of the rep is thicker than the gen
rdZVvtf.jpg


once you take off the crown, you can see the rep has 2 water-resistance rubber, same as gen, shows a lot of work from the maker
oq8uWiw.jpg


the bottom lid overview, the structure and engraving are both done well
EWx0l5Q.jpg


however because the movement is thicker on the rep, the bottom lip has to be thicker as well
Fhuy7VZ.jpg


so how much thicker?
TpnZPuj.jpg


gen is 3.79mm
HgosBab.jpg


rep is 5.2mm, 1.41mm thicker than gen
jbTuo79.jpg


front view of the case, pretty much the same
XNGG3u5.jpg


45 degree angle, still no difference
IiOyx7M.jpg


lug is pretty much the same
sXHav9A.jpg


Let's measure the case, we can hardly see any difference here
iCH2uRU.jpg


gen is 6.77mm
oFvI7Rj.jpg


rep is 6.89mm, 0.12mm thicker than gen. We also measured bottom lid is 1.41mm thicker, so 1.41+0.12= 1.53mm, all matches
vzfEcNC.jpg


the crown is very well made, without label, you can hardly tell
f3DxQIr.jpg


all the grooves of rep matches the gen (left gen right rep)
JeFlmwP.jpg


the font, colour, and hands of rep pretty much matches the gen. The maker directly used gen to make the model, as you can see the gen's dial was damaged, shows the maker's sincerity
CCxo4Ek.jpg


same grove on markers on rep as gen
X1XyHEH.jpg


logo and font all matches up (up gen bottom rep)
rwjyp0i.jpg

zg4aach.jpg


Let's go even deeper now
UhhboJc.jpg

7RtlYaX.jpg


underneath is a seagull 2824, very reliable movement, low breakage rate
LecRpVd.jpg

RcsrcNj.jpg

y3ulNFq.jpg


the graving of the logo on the tang buckle is pretty much the same
TQRXtEw.jpg


Conclusion,
this is definitely a watch that is worth buying, in the front it can definitely said to be exactly the same as the gen, although 1.53mm thicker, it wouldn't feel much on hand, since the rep is only 11.56mm thick. If someone wears it on hand and show it to me, I can hardly tell gen from rep.

After the review I believe you all know a bit more about the back. As for rep watches, the movement is that hardest problem of all, especially when repping a self-made movement, the only way now is through decorated plate, such as Pam and AP.

We all wish rep to be better, and that is what we're working on. However, sometime we have to take a step back and understand the many difficulties, not only the movement but also the cost. When you think about the price you pay for this and for the gen, you should be pretty happy.

Pros:
1. extremely high front similarity, no matter natural, cold, warm light, super high standard
2. dial, font, letter details are on point
3. the dome glass(?) is very similar to gen in its curve

Cons:
1. 1.53mm thicker than gen
2. the whirl effect could not be replicated

Thank you all for reading, I have more images but I cannot post more since the 50 images limit.

Hope you enjoyed.

Thanks for informative thread. Good read


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psyphyc

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Thanks for the excellent comparison. I really want this watch in blue now!


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