QCs New PPF 5712 Clone

ryantunna · 16/6/22

Saul Goodman said:
There is no cap on the pinion, you can see it shine through in rusty red.

This

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ryantunna · 16/6/22

ryantunna said:
How are they sending these $700+ watches out with clearly crown rusted pinions?

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Brown rusted pinion ***

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Jaysn0w · 17/6/22

Pipicu said:
Did the first batch go to the people who pre-ordered first?

And if I order now, there will be no guarantee that I get my watch for the second batch, right?

I am hoping for PPF to update the 5726 tho...

I asked puretime.. if you bought one now it would arrive end of june (2nd batch) as for what it would look/qc we will have to wait for the actual unit to arrive them

Jaysn0w · 17/6/22

ryantunna said:
Brown rusted pinion ***

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Ohhh.. really? From the qc pics? Actual 5712 has like a brass brown post pinion on.. (check pp website) .. it does look "rust" type

ryantunna · 17/6/22

Jaysn0w said:
Ohhh.. really? From the qc pics? Actual 5712 has like a brass brown post pinion on.. (check pp website) .. it does look "rust" type

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mech500 · 17/6/22

ryantunna said:
Brown rusted pinion ***

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Read a few pages back. Gen is same apparently. Not that I care.

Tobel · 17/6/22

ryantunna said:
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Not sure what that's supposed to prove. There are gen with and without brass pinion:

man5on90 · 17/6/22

Has anyone seen this yet?? I guess they missed it.
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man5on90 · 17/6/22

man5on90 said:
Has anyone seen this yet?? I guess they missed it.

Looks like this only applied to the very new Gen for PP. I noticed on a couple of 2019 models on Chrono that they don't have the hour indices in bold dot format on the 5 & 7 markers.

addingwatch · 17/6/22

Good enough for me. Ordered today.

ryantunna · 17/6/22

Tobel said:
Not sure what that's supposed to prove. There are gen with and without brass pinion:

It’s totally different. Gen is a lightly brass colored capped pinion. Rep is a rusted hole.

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Pipicu · 17/6/22

Jaysn0w said:
I asked puretime.. if you bought one now it would arrive end of june (2nd batch) as for what it would look/qc we will have to wait for the actual unit to arrive them

Thanks for asking. But i think i will wait for 2nd batch QC's and probably pull the trigger on the 3rd batch then.

tangokilo · 17/6/22

If the factory claims they used a gen 5712 to make the dial, why would they not copy the 5 and 7 o'clock dots and make them larger like on the gen dial? Also, the "rusty pinion" issue is clearly evident as in if they were to have the gen 5712 in hand clearly they would have noticed that as well since the pictures of the gen a few pages back does not have those rusty pinions.

In my o-"pinion" this V2 looks like a slight improvement over V1, mainly because of the clone movement. However, the dial color remains to be seen with good pictures hopefully taken right next to a V1.

Watyouseek · 17/6/22

I should received mine in a couple of days maybe ? Unless the shipping is false, currently states that it’s “Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item -> Your item arrived at a shipping partner facility at 12:11 pm on June 17, 2022 . This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date”. I can post some irl pics

Punchou · 17/6/22

https://clickpix.org/image/z2Z1zv
https://clickpix.org/image/z2Znwj
https://clickpix.org/image/z2Z9Y1
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https://clickpix.org/image/z2Ztpc
https://clickpix.org/image/z2ZBGX

Found some photos that show more details about the dial. What do you think?

Tobel · 17/6/22

ryantunna said:
It’s totally different. Gen is a lightly brass colored capped pinion. Rep is a rusted hole.

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Please see better example here: https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...17-new-ppf-5712-with-pp240-super-clone/page29

Thanks BIONONE

Again the only thing we've seen are QC pics so let's not make such definite statements shall we?

mech500 · 17/6/22

tangokilo said:
If the factory claims they used a gen 5712 to make the dial, why would they not copy the 5 and 7 o'clock dots and make them larger like on the gen dial? Also, the "rusty pinion" issue is clearly evident as in if they were to have the gen 5712 in hand clearly they would have noticed that as well since the pictures of the gen a few pages back does not have those rusty pinions.

In my o-"pinion" this V2 looks like a slight improvement over V1, mainly because of the clone movement. However, the dial color remains to be seen with good pictures hopefully taken right next to a V1.

I think the point is that there are many gens variants.

Some with big dots, some with small, some rustier than others, some with sun burst dial, some with flat purple dial etc lol. Who knows what gen parts factory copied.

Either way there probably isn’t a right or wrong here....as long as the overall quality is nice and the watch “pops”

Im always skeptical when someone posts a random gen pic and claims to have identified flaws on the rep. Have been here way too long to realise that half the flaws are gen variations, which can’t be proved otherwise

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TESLA760 · 17/6/22

mech500 said:
I think the point is that there are many gens variants.

Some with big dots, some with small, some rustier than others, some with sun burst dial, some with flat purple dial etc lol. Who knows what gen parts factory copied.

Either way there probably isn’t a right or wrong here....as long as the overall quality is nice and the watch “pops”

Im always skeptical when someone posts a random gen pic and claims to have identified flaws on the rep. Have been here way too long to realise that half the flaws are gen variations, which can’t be proved otherwise

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The voice of reason. Thank you sir.

KruisingKhaos95 · 17/6/22

mech500 said:
I think the point is that there are many gens variants.

Some with big dots, some with small, some rustier than others, some with sun burst dial, some with flat purple dial etc lol. Who knows what gen parts factory copied.

Either way there probably isn’t a right or wrong here....as long as the overall quality is nice and the watch “pops”

Im always skeptical when someone posts a random gen pic and claims to have identified flaws on the rep. Have been here way too long to realise that half the flaws are gen variations, which can’t be proved otherwise

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Perfect summary!

I'm still amazed they have even been able to replicate this movement for a fraction of the cost. Ignoring any potential (minute) disparities from gen all that matters to me is that the build quality and finishing are good and the movement is reliable. The quality of the watch versus what they cost is insanely good value imo, the quality of reps on offer at the moment is incredible.

PPF have shown with there recent reps that they are very capable of creating a great quality rep ad I don't doubt it'll be more of the same with this one. I for one am incredibly excited to receive mine, and that's after owning the previous version and selling it lol

man5on90 · 18/6/22

Looks like a piece of lint on the print.
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