No More Time Bombs, VRF just released 1st fully cloned 3186 and 116710LN

[zilli0n]

The other super clone movement (SA3186 from Noob) was a time bomb, so it had to be used very carefully, especially when changing the date.

These two new super clones movements (SH3186 from ARF and VR3186 from VRF) should be much more reliable and robust.

Prior to these releases, in order to get a reliable 1:1 movement, we had to spend more money, either buying a gen Rolex Caliber 3186 (approx. 2K USD/EUR) or adding some gen parts to an Asian 28xx clone movement.

Thanks a lot for anwser ! So that's all about reliability !
I knew this problem and was waiting for a reliable movement on BLNR ! I'm exciting too now ! :woo:

 

[Oascom]

Now question is which one is better.....

 

[ginopino]

Now question is which one is better.....

from first view: ARF for the exterior, VRF for the interior... need to mash up like the noob daytona...

 

[5t3f4n]

from first view: ARF for the exterior, VRF for the interior... need to mash up like the noob daytona...

.....and here we go again.....

 

[ginopino]

.....and here we go again.....

my grail is a 5 digit... hope to source only the VR GMT movement and later decide what to do...

 

[Oascom]

Markers definitely better in vrf, but the Canon pinion hole is more pronounced.

Movement Finnish in vrf much better

 

[Oascom]

Vrf movement is nice and clean, and blue spring and notice the grease flowing out on arf.... Not to mention crappy Finnish.

 

[Oascom]

 

[kennygconspiracy]

By the way, even gen 3186 movements have hour springs that break down

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[PETROLHE4D]

Damn, I just franken a Noob GMT CHS! Does arf or vr movements will fit into noob case? Also will gen hands will fit this movement right?


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[bootlegboy]

Hmm. Now it's just a waiting game for the BLNR :/

 

[frankfrankfrank]

Now that we have two competing factories, I think I'll wait til Batman or Pepsi and a second batch. Biggest concerns for me are the incompatible bracelet and that massive hole in the middle of the dial. Arf has their classic bold date. Neither have incredible bezels, but I guess Arf looks better between the two.

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Edit

This is the same movement for the 16570 right? Maybe Vrf and Arf will do a new version of those

 

[DC109]

Now that we have two competing factories, I think I'll wait til Batman or Pepsi. Is anyone going to try to put this movement in a 5 digit case?

It is not a realistic option. I have looked into the idea of putting a gen 3186 into a gen-spec sub case (I have a JF, TC, and gen cases on hand) for a fun hybrid. According to the experts, the 3186 has different dimensions and won't fit a 3135 case. So you'd need a gen spec five digit GMT case (either 16710 or 16570), and a rep like that has not been made (yet!).

 

[frankfrankfrank]

It is not a realistic option. I have looked into the idea of putting a gen 3186 into a gen-spec sub case (I have a JF, TC, and gen cases on hand) for a fun hybrid. According to the experts, the 3186 has different dimensions and won't fit a 3135 case. So you'd need a gen spec five digit GMT case (either 16710 or 16570), and a rep like that has not been made (yet!).

Lol sorry I already edited that part out by the time you replied! I realized how difficult it would be, but it would be interesting to see a brand new 5 digit rep with this movement, but of course swapping parts on it for gen would be.... hard

 

[Oascom]

Pictures of braclet and caseback on purtime are exactly the same for arf and vrf.

Not sure if they use same bracelet or they used same picture accidentally.

 

[bill33]

Pictures of braclet and caseback on purtime are exactly the same for arf and vrf.

Not sure if they use same bracelet or they used same picture accidentally.

They’re different. Clasp codes 6MW VRF, P3L ARF

 

[Oascom]

They’re different. Clasp codes 6MW VRF, P3L ARF

Ok my bad, was looking at the dirt on the clasp crown and it has the same dirt and hair in same spot lol

 

[mari115]

It is not a realistic option. I have looked into the idea of putting a gen 3186 into a gen-spec sub case (I have a JF, TC, and gen cases on hand) for a fun hybrid. According to the experts, the 3186 has different dimensions and won't fit a 3135 case. So you'd need a gen spec five digit GMT case (either 16710 or 16570), and a rep like that has not been made (yet!).

So, let me get this straight, this new clone movement Won’t fit a 3135 5 digit case? Who said that? Is it a thing?


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[hadamokel]

So, let me get this straight, this new clone movement Won’t fit a 3135 5 digit case? Who said that? Is it a thing?


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Rather odd... 3186 is just an improvement over the 3185 but should have identical dimensions.
3185 is using most of the 3135 as a base, so a 3185/6 should fit a 3135 case. Hasn't it been done?

 

[ginopino]

Rather odd... 3186 is just an improvement over the 3185 but should have identical dimensions.
3185 is using most of the 3135 as a base, so a 3185/6 should fit a 3135 case. Hasn't it been done?

3135 is 6,00mm height
3175 is 6,00mm height
3185 is 6,45mm height
3186 is 6,80mm height